Malaysian 777 Plane Crashes in Ukraine

[Champcar]

What a terrible way to go

 

[MikeD]

This could very well have been an misidentification, rather than an targeted, known act. As civilian airliners getting shot down accidently isn't unheard of. Iran Air 655 comes to mind.

The bigger question is, if this was Russian separatists, when did they get the potential systems needed to do something like this?

I don't see this being a major game changer in the situation over there, other than the increased pressure on Russia to stop supplying whatever and whenever to so-called rebel forces.

 

[Champcar]

Wow that was violent.

 

[Malko]

 

[Murdoughnut]

Let's hope the rapid decompression took everyone out quickly.

 

[MikeD]

@JEP SA-17, a bad mamma-jamma.

 

[Soku39]

This could very well have been an misidentification, rather than an targeted, known act. As civilian airliners getting shot down accidently isn't unheard of. Iran Air 655 comes to mind.

The bigger question is, if this was Russian separatists, when did they get the potential systems needed to do something like this?

I don't see this being a major game changer in the situation over there, other than the increased pressure on Russia to stop supplying whatever and whenever to so-called rebel forces.

Could you imagine if this jet was carrying a more "first world" flag though?

 

[Champcar]

Some graphic pictures showing up on twitter right now. No question it was an in flight breakup.

 

[Malko]

@JEP SA-17, a bad mamma-jamma.

Indeed.....Buzzing along in cruise flight and ........Sickening.....

 

[Trip7]

Goodness I went on Banjo and there are tweets with bodies. It just got real

 

[skypilot6]

And on the Anniversary of TWA 800...

RIP

 

[adk]

NBC reporting MH17 was NORDO for a "significant period of time" while over Ukraine.

 

[Murdoughnut]

And on the Anniversary of TWA 800...

RIP

God, that's all the conspiracy theorists need...

 

[Vector4Food]

Pics

 

[MikeD]

God, that's all the conspiracy theorists need...

No, I wouldn't think so. Far different circumstances in a number of large areas. For anyone to try to link the two is too much of a polar gap.

 

[Vector4Food]

I've asked it elsewhere, but WHY or how would the separatists need SAM tech that can reach that altitude, in my uneducated mind it's simply not practicable for the type of war they're fighting.

 

[EIR]

That's the 3rd plane downed in that region in the last 4 days.

 

[jskibo]

FDC NOTAMs. For US operators, there's an SFAR

FDC 4/7667 (A0012/14) - null AIRSPACE SPECIAL NOTICE UKRAINE
SPECIAL FEDERAL AVIATION REGULATION (SFAR) NO. 113, PROHIBITION
AGAINST CERTAIN FLIGHTS IN THE SIMFEROPOL (UKFV) FLIGHT INFORMATION
REGION (FIR), AND ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS.
(A) APPLICABILITY. THIS SPECIAL FEDERAL AVIATION REGULATION (SFAR)
APPLIES TO THE FOLLOWING PERSONS:
(1) ALL U.S. AIR CARRIERS AND U.S. COMMERCIAL OPERATORS;
(2) ALL PERSONS EXERCISING THE PRIVILEGES OF AN AIRMAN CERTIFICATE
ISSUED BY THE FAA, EXCEPT SUCH PERSONS OPERATING U.S. REGISTERED
AIRCRAFT FOR A FOREIGN AIR CARRIER; AND
(3) ALL OPERATORS OF U.S. REGISTERED CIVIL AIRCRAFT, EXCEPT WHERE THE
OPERATOR OF SUCH AIRCRAFT IS A FOREIGN AIR CARRIER.
(B) FLIGHT PROHIBITION. EXCEPT AS PROVIDED IN PARAGRAPHS (C) AND
(D), NO PERSON DESCRIBED IN PARAGRAPH (A) MAY CONDUCT FLIGHT
OPERATIONS IN THE PORTION OF THE SIMFEROPOL (UKFV) FIR WITHIN THE
FOLLOWING LATERAL LIMITS:
454500N 0345800E-460900N 0360000E-460000N 0370000E-452700N
0364100E-452242N 0364100E-451824N 0363524E-451442N 0363542E-451218N
END PART 1 OF 4. 23 APR 22:30 2014 UNTIL 1504270001. CREATED: 23 APR 22:16 2014
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Simferopol is in the middle of Crimea, this is way Northeast of that.....

RIP, Sad!

 

[skypilot6]

God, that's all the conspiracy theorists need...

Your right, its just an creepy coincidence the dates are the same.

 

[MikeD]

Simferopol is in the middle of Crimea, this is way Northeast of that.....

RIP, Sad!

True, but in terms of the general unrest in this area (Ukraine) as well those implications to civil air traffic.