Malaysia Airlines 777 missing

Incidentally, I checked the moon's position during the early portion of MH370, and it wasn't up, meaning that visual contact would be very difficult. Notwithstanding IMC.
 
tomokc said:
Incidentally, I checked the moon's position during the early portion of MH370, and it wasn't up, meaning that visual contact would be very difficult. Notwithstanding IMC.
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IF you mean MH370 finding another plane. Airplanes have blinky lights on them
 
Vector4Food said:
IF you mean MH370 finding another plane. Airplanes have blinky lights on them
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OK, crap. I am so thinking about a dark airliner against a moonless, starry sky that I forgot the little flashy things. Need. More. Coffee.

Wait!!! Another site is reporting that a Singapore maintenance employee just confessed to unscrewing all of the light bulbs on SIA68.
 
tomokc said:
Incidentally, I checked the moon's position during the early portion of MH370, and it wasn't up, meaning that visual contact would be very difficult. Notwithstanding IMC.
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A couple civilians doing an intercept of another aircraft, at altitude, in broad daylight is highly improbable.

At night? Forget about it.
 
I'm pretty sure all of the answers to this mystery can be found here:

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From BBC...

Officials say the sign-off to air traffic controllers came at 01:19 as it left Malaysian airspace.

The last transmission from the plane's Aircraft and Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) was received at 01:07.

"We don't know when the ACARS was switched off after that," Mr Ahmad Jauhari said. "It was supposed to transmit 30 minutes from there, but that transmission did not come through."

It disappeared off air traffic controllers' screens at 01:21, when it was over the South China Sea.
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This was my question about the 14 min. It sounds like the ACARS message at 01:07 was routine and the next was due at 01:37. At 01:21 the transponder signal was lost. Is it just me or does this support the idea that the 14 min gap means nothing? Couldn't something catastrophic have happened at 01:21 that killed both systems?
 
Derg said:
It's probably in pieces somewhere.

I think people come up with wacky ideas because we can't possibly imagine how easy it is to end up kilt-dead with no trace, but apparently, it's pretty easy.

Just like witnessing something as violent and tragic as a tornado and not being able to grasp the power of nature. "Must be the hand of God!" Nah, just a massive localized cyclonic funnel in an air mass disturbance that has a strange penchant for trailer parks and has nothing to do with your chosen denomination or lack thereof.

The idea, and I'll readily admit if I'm wrong, that they're sitting at some seekrit terrorist base in one of the 'Stans is ridiculous. 200-plus people on a jet, completely OpsSec, no social media, mobile phone calls or anyone after a week? Please, you can't even hit turbulence without people taking breathless selfie-videos of themselves.
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Haha penchant for trailer parks
 
The Malaysian government has reversed itself AGAIN, now on the timing of when avionics were turned off. They previously said that ACARS was turned off BEFORE the last verbal communications which was “All right. Good night.” Today they are admitting that they don’t know WHEN the ACARS was turned off, only that it was.

Or wasn’t. Who knows? Stay tuned for tomorrow’s reversal.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...3be726-add5-11e3-96dc-d6ea14c099f9_print.html
 
tomokc said:
OK, crap. I am so thinking about a dark airliner against a moonless, starry sky that I forgot the little flashy things. Need. More. Coffee.

Wait!!! Another site is reporting that a Singapore maintenance employee just confessed to unscrewing all of the light bulbs on SIA68.
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I hope you know my sarcasm was cranked to 11
 
tomokc said:
The Malaysian government has reversed itself AGAIN, now on the timing of when avionics were turned off. They previously said that ACARS was turned off BEFORE the last verbal communications which was “All right. Good night.” Today they are admitting that they don’t know WHEN the ACARS was turned off, only that it was.

Or wasn’t. Who knows? Stay tuned for tomorrow’s reversal.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...3be726-add5-11e3-96dc-d6ea14c099f9_print.html
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Its a good thing they are in charge of the investigation. :rolleyes:
 
inigo88 said:
I've been reading a lot of the Australian news during the evenings here in the U.S. (following day their time). One of the articles commented that, if MH370 took the southern of the two routes suspected by the Inmarsat data, that the aircraft should have been picked up the RAAF's Jindalee Operational Radar Network (JORN), an HF over the horizon radar system (OTHR).

I was familiar with other OTHR systems like the famous "Russian Woodpecker" (NATO Steel Yard) in Chernobyl, but hadn't heard of JORN before now.

More info on the Jindalee OTHR:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jindalee_Operational_Radar_Network
http://www.defence.gov.au/dmo/esd/jp2025/jp2025.cfm
https://www.airforce.gov.au/Technol...etwork/?RAAF-dq9yQKwX6WliV2hNVcj38sG4oMWiAMtQ
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The US has a similar system, we used it to track airborne drug runners coming from South America and in the Caribbean and the Pacific. gave us cueing to pick up the aircraft with our own conventional radars.
There are apparently three stations, I knew about two - one in Texas and in Virginia didn't know about the one in Puerto Rico.

Under the ROTHR entry of the wikipage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Over-the-horizon_radar
http://www.mobileradar.org/Documents/ROTHR.pdf
 
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