Malaysia Airlines 777 missing

tomokc said:
Captain Shah was apparently photographed wearing a t-shirt supporting opposition to the Malaysian government. If he's found alive he'll be arrested. Until then he's guilty, and they'll trump up "evidence" like family problems and financial problems. What will they find next? A flight plan on the sim that shows a departure at 12:41, disabling of ACARS at 1:09, disabling of xponders at 1:21, venting the cabin before a climb to FL450...
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Apparently supporting the opposition leader in Malaysia is about as common as hating Obama here ...

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...pported_anwar_ibrahim_was_he_a_terrorist.html
 
Retired in SAN said:
As I stated earlier, I hope they're not unloading DBs out the back while loading live nukes in the front. Sounds like paranoia? So did the concept of 911.. It's a whole new world..
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Privately registered airplane files a flight plan as a G5 from XXXX airport to KTEB... Supposed they even used a valid registration of an airplane they may or may not own?

That part of it, is a bit far fetched, but entirely plausible.
 
To those speculating that the B-777 is being used for nefarious means I simply have to ask, why go to all that trouble? You don't need to commandeer a B-777 to deliver a nuke to the U.S. You can do that with almost any aircraft, and a lot less conspicuously than this.
 
RDoug said:
To those speculating that the B-777 is being used for nefarious means I simply have to ask, why go to all that trouble? You don't need to commandeer a B-777 to deliver a nuke to the U.S. You can do that with almost any aircraft, and a lot less conspicuously than this.
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A truth, but I figure if you can't get your hands on a nuke or dirty bomb, you'd want something that can carry a lot of more-traditional high-energy material (e.g., Jet-A).
 
Murdoughnut said:
If these guys were US pilots, would you fellas allow their characters to be assassinated like this under such unsubstantiated claims? Just curious.

Funny when I read one of the above posts ... airline pilot whose wife is leaving him, has financial problems, is politically active ... yeah that's pretty much all of them, save @Derg :)
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Next report will show browser history at a.net. DUN DUN DUNNNN
 
It's probably in pieces somewhere.

I think people come up with wacky ideas because we can't possibly imagine how easy it is to end up kilt-dead with no trace, but apparently, it's pretty easy.

Just like witnessing something as violent and tragic as a tornado and not being able to grasp the power of nature. "Must be the hand of God!" Nah, just a massive localized cyclonic funnel in an air mass disturbance that has a strange penchant for trailer parks and has nothing to do with your chosen denomination or lack thereof.

The idea, and I'll readily admit if I'm wrong, that they're sitting at some seekrit terrorist base in one of the 'Stans is ridiculous. 200-plus people on a jet, completely OpsSec, no social media, mobile phone calls or anyone after a week? Please, you can't even hit turbulence without people taking breathless selfie-videos of themselves.
 
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tomokc said:
Captain Shah was apparently photographed wearing a t-shirt supporting opposition to the Malaysian government. If he's found alive he'll be arrested. Until then he's guilty, and they'll trump up "evidence" like family problems and financial problems. What will they find next? A flight plan on the sim that shows a departure at 12:41, disabling of ACARS at 1:09, disabling of xponders at 1:21, venting the cabin before a climb to FL450...
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Gosh, that'd be like someone who didn't vote for the President flying an airliner in the US. "Is there a traitor in your airline cockpit? Find out on Fox News at 11!"
 
I read a conspiracy post involving TCAS, and want help understanding the system a little better.

This http://keithledgerwood.tumblr.com/post/79838944823/did-malaysian-airlines-370-disappear-using-sia68 alleges that MH370 slipped up underneath Barcelona-bound Singapore flight 68 (SIA68) and trailed it over the Stans before dropping off and landing, effectively masking its presence from interrogating ground radars.

The guy says this about MH370 using TCAS to find and intercept SIA68, but SIA68 not being able to detect MH370:

However that system only operates by receiving the transponder information from other planes and displaying it for the pilot. If MH370 was flying without the transponder, it would have been invisible to SIA68.

In addition, the TCAS system onboard MH370 would have enabled the pilot(s) to easily locate and approach SIA68 over the Straits of Malacca as they appeared to have done. The system would have shown them the flight’s direction of travel and the altitude it was traveling which would have enabled them to perfectly time an intercept right behind the other Boeing 777.

Aside from one B777 catching up to another B777 at cruise, does TCAS technology work this way?
 
This is glorious:

A 29-year-old Malaysian civil aviation engineer, Mohammed Khairul Amri Selamat, who works for a private jet charter company, was on the flight. Police are investigating all passengers and crew, but he is likely to be of particular interest because of his aviation knowledge. "I am confident that he is not involved," his father said. "They're welcome to investigate me and my family."
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There was someone onboard? With extensive knowledge of aviation?

Does that mean that the user here that complained about her middle seat when she has just flown the simulator at NATCO ("dammit!") that it was a terr'rist dry run right here in the U S of A? Crap, we're going to get scooped.
 
Derg said:
This is glorious:



There was someone onboard? With extensive knowledge of aviation?

Does that mean that the user here that complained about her middle seat when she has just flown the simulator at NATCO ("dammit!") that it was a terr'rist dry run right here in the U S of A? Crap, we're going to get scooped.
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I wonder where that chick is these days. Probably a major.
 
Minuteman said:
A truth, but I figure if you can't get your hands on a nuke or dirty bomb, you'd want something that can carry a lot of more-traditional high-energy material (e.g., Jet-A).
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There are easier, less conspicuous ways to get your hands on a 777 than this. There are several parked on the ramps of certain Middle East airports that have factions of the respective governments that support jihad. Easy to overlook one that just "got misplaced." If it was non-Islamic terrorism, the same applies to other countries with political/religious bents. Why subject your scheme to worldwide speculation? As far as carrying large amounts of Jet-A, why not just acquire a clapped out 737, put a bunch of ferry tanks in it, and turn it into a flying gas can?
 
Derg said:
Mr. Lederwood's Sources:



Alien Abduction. My source? Alex Jone's InfoWars and Bloomberg.
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Derg, I get that he's wearing a tinfoil beanie, but can you help me understand actively using TCAS to intercept another B777 while turning off your transponder to avoid detection?

Aside from the fact that a B777-200ER probably can't overtake another B777 in cruise flight like Maverick did in Top Gun.
 
tomokc said:
Derg, I get that he's wearing a tinfoil beanie, but can you help me understand actively using TCAS to intercept another B777 while turning off your transponder to avoid detection?

Aside from the fact that a B777-200ER probably can't overtake another B777 in cruise flight like Maverick did in Top Gun.
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The whole idea is bogus, forget actually "intercepting"

If a prime target was under/over following an SSR target, it would be noticed even faster than if the prime target was on its own.
 
tomokc said:
Derg, I get that he's wearing a tinfoil beanie, but can you help me understand actively using TCAS to intercept another B777 while turning off your transponder to avoid detection?

Aside from the fact that a B777-200ER probably can't overtake another B777 in cruise flight like Maverick did in Top Gun.
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If you turn off your transponder, your TCAS is also turned off. The way TCAS works is that the transponders "talk" to each other, so that they know where each other is and can deconflict any issues.
 
tomokc said:
Derg, I get that he's wearing a tinfoil beanie, but can you help me understand actively using TCAS to intercept another B777 while turning off your transponder to avoid detection?

Aside from the fact that a B777-200ER probably can't overtake another B777 in cruise flight like Maverick did in Top Gun.
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AFAIK, if you turn off your transponder, I believe you lose your own TCAS display, plus, it's basically a "semi accurate" symbol with vertical displacement.

There's no other data.

So to be able to pick out a particular flight, conduct and "intercept" and "shadow" that aircraft, using TCAS alone is highly improbable.

With an ADS-C display, sure, but again, if you've disabled many systems, you're not going to have access to that information IF you've got it at all, which only a small handful of airplanes have. What, we have 800 planes and two have it, and it barely works? :)

It's a complete reach. And highly improbable. TCAS, at best, is showing a plane at 1 o'clock, roughly so many miles a few hundred feet above or a few thousand below…. Or it might be a boat. TRUESTORY BRO.
 
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