Malaysia Airlines 777 missing
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Vector4Food
This job would be easier without all the airplanes
Here's why I ask.
They recently changed the rules for fuel dumping (okay a couple years back)
We only have to protect 3000' above and 6000' down, because they have determined that any fuel no matter the volume would dissipate to a point where it could cause no harm to anyone or anything.
So how then, could fuel fall from 35,000' and still have enough volume in any concentration to form fuel stains that large?
If I had to put money on it, and I don't, and I won't... this is another EgyptAir
gne in prog
Well-Known Member
Sometimes they do. Af447 wasn't that long ago.
My angle was that "catastrophic breakup" has many different meanings, such that a fuel slick doesn't necessarily mean there wasn't any kind of structural failure.
If you're referring to the entire plane disintegrating at altitude, then yes, fuel forming a slick coming from the high FLs is very unlikely, at least to any significant degree.
Yup. Sometimes they do unfortunately.
Flying Tigers 739
Flight 19, both the TBMs as well as a rescue plane
as well as many others.
Vector4Food
This job would be easier without all the airplanes
Does the 777 send info like the 330 does as in AF 447?
Not entirely certain if and to what degree of fidelity that it may or may not. @A Life Aloft would probably know much better.
sweeps
Undercarriage Actuator
Source?
I think you missed my point. AF447 didn't just disappear. It had a mechanical failure, and the pilots crashed it into the ocean. They knew where it went down. This thing seems to have just disappeared. Something is fishy with this.
The Flying Tigers had a few radar returns, and crashed into terrian (if I remember right) and the TBM's off of Florida was at a time when technology didn't give us radar tracks like we have with this.
Cptnchia
Dissatisfied Customer
Yes, yes it does. Heck, even the 75/76s auto snitch.
Vector4Food
This job would be easier without all the airplanes
So shouldnt the airline, or somebody have information on this? Can that software be manually disabled?
sweeps
Undercarriage Actuator
The Flying Tigers flight was never found. Took off from Guam and was lost at sea. Interesting reading about it that another one crashed on the same day up in the Aleutians. Both had departed from CA and were taking different routes to Saigon. Crazy...
Which is something to get used to. We had to SATCOM maintenance control about some issues a few months ago, and the conversation always started like "Oh hey, flight 123, we were just looking at that about to give you a call…"
Murdoughnut
Well sized member
That's still a leap - could have just as likely been hypoxia induced incapacitation, with a slouching pilot bumping the yoke and disconnecting the A/P. Even if the aircraft were intact upon impact, doesn't mean it was purposeful.
CirrusMonkey
No Real Usefulness
Pick any media outlets websight and it's likely the 'breaking news' on there
Link? Now I'm curious. Memory is wrong on that one I guess.
739 in 1962.
Vector4Food
This job would be easier without all the airplanes
Then radar contact would not have been lost at FL350.
They were well within range of radar sources
sweeps
Undercarriage Actuator
At the time I did and saw no mention of it
zmiller4
Well-Known Member
It took a while to pinpoint AF447 as well.
Airplanes take a while to find sometimes, even in populated areas. It took months to find Steve Fossett's plane just a few miles from Mammoth; there's a Piper in the San Gabriels that was found 7 years later...20 miles from one of the most densely populated areas in the country.
Radar coverage sucks in a lot of places.
It does seem ridiculous to me that it should be this difficult to figure out where an aircraft goes down. ELT's weren't required in 121 turbojet operations for a long time. I wonder, with modern technology, why a $300 million airplane doesn't have something on board that could pinpoint it's location.