Malaysia Airlines 777 missing

Clearly the news cannot be trusted. So do we have any 777 experts on here? Is there any possible way that investigators could know of the change in FMS programming prior to the last radio transmission. I only fly a lowly CJ3, but I don't understand how anyone on the ground would know of the change in navigation. Does ACARS send information about the next couple waypoints?
 
MikeOH58 said:
Clearly the news cannot be trusted. So do we have any 777 experts on here? Is there any possible way that investigators could know of the change in FMS programming prior to the last radio transmission. I only fly a lowly CJ3, but I don't understand how anyone on the ground would know of the change in navigation. Does ACARS send information about the next couple waypoints?
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My question as well, but I feared it had been covered SOMEWHERE in the past 2,100 posts.

How does anyone on the ground know what's in the FMS?
 
If they were on ADS-C actively with a Center, they would be essentially sending digital position reports at a given interval determined by the contracting agency. Remember, this would include the next two waypoints sequenced in the FMS. There were early issues with ADS-C in the NAT MNPS due to guys inputting ETP's as points along the active flight plan; Gander and Shanwick were quite confused when they saw those as next waypoints.
 
MikeOH58 said:
Clearly the news cannot be trusted. So do we have any 777 experts on here? Is there any possible way that investigators could know of the change in FMS programming prior to the last radio transmission. I only fly a lowly CJ3, but I don't understand how anyone on the ground would know of the change in navigation. Does ACARS send information about the next couple waypoints?
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Did you fly 58s?
 
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GlenA said:
Not sure if anyone saw this article on Wired about this, but it sounds plausible and may be the simplest of explanations yet.
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03/mh370-electrical-fire/
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The dude who wrote it has as much time in a transport category airplane as I do. Zero hours. It's more speculation from someone who doesn't have the knowledge required to make an intelligent judgement on what happened.

To his credit, when additional information came out, he said I'm wrong.
 
MikeOH58 said:
And I hate to sound cold, but CNN has a segment coming up on how the girlfriend of the American passenger can hold onto hope and how she knows her boyfriend is still alive. Well. She is so inundated with grief she isn't thinking rationally. Shame on you CNN for exploiting this.
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CNN exploiting a family's tragedy for ratings? I mean, when random blonde chick gets kidnapped/disappears, you can't escape it for five minutes.

Yeah, you know your boyfriend's still alive. Just like the MIA families from Vietnam know their loved ones are still alive too, kept in a prison camp for all these years.
 
tonyw said:
CNN exploiting a family's tragedy for ratings? I mean, when random blonde chick gets kidnapped/disappears, you can't escape it for five minutes.

Yeah, you know your boyfriend's still alive. Just like the MIA families from Vietnam know their loved ones are still alive too, kept in a prison camp for all these years.
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Actually, we did knowingly abandon living POW/MIAs in Vietnam/Laos/Cambodia in order to expedite getting out of that war; personnel who probably lived a long time afterwards and were documented to have been alive, albeit against a dedicated disinformation and denial campaign waged by Presidencies from Nixon, all the way to at least Bush41.

One of the blackest marks and worst embarassments in this nations history. The selling out of it's own servicemen.
 
MikeD said:
Actually, we did knowingly abandon living POW/MIAs in Vietnam/Laos/Cambodia in order to expedite getting out of that war; personnel who probably lived a long time afterwards and were documented to have been alive, albeit against a dedicated disinformation and denial campaign waged by Presidencies from Nixon, all the way to at least Bush41.

One of the blackest marks and worst embarassments in this nations history. The selling out of it's own servicemen.
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It was interesting how the whole Vietnam POW story unfolded. Initial credible evidence was followed by bad evidence that was discredited. Then, the standard became, we will act on additional credible evidence instead of initial credible evidence.

No great effort was made to make North Vietnam account for POW's at the bargaining table when we controlled the bargaining table after Linebacker II.

Decades later, look how quickly they tagged Speicher as KIA.
 
MikeD said:
Actually, we did knowingly abandon living POW/MIAs in Vietnam/Laos/Cambodia in order to expedite getting out of that war; personnel who probably lived a long time afterwards and were documented to have been alive, albeit against a dedicated disinformation and denial campaign waged by Presidencies from Nixon, all the way to at least Bush41.

One of the blackest marks and worst embarassments in this nations history. The selling out of it's own servicemen.
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True.

Few Americans know about this. And of those who do, few have the courage to speak about it or mention the American aviators who were left behind. Unfortunately, very few seem to want to know what really happened or want this story to be told.

I've made a few attempts to write that story, but it is verboten.
 
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