Loggin solo time as PIC

I say don't log it as PIC. Maybe technically you can, but just because you can doesn't mean you should. It's just one less thing you have to potentially explain in an interview...
 
butt said:
I say don't log it as PIC. Maybe technically you can, but just because you can doesn't mean you should. It's just one less thing you have to potentially explain in an interview...
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I don't see what's bad about it. The person soloing is the one in command of the airplane. Like the person said above, if the person flying isn't PIC, who is? :dunno:
 
butt said:
I say don't log it as PIC. Maybe technically you can, but just because you can doesn't mean you should. It's just one less thing you have to potentially explain in an interview...
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What's this repeated nonsense about having to explain how you followed the rules in an interview? Are people so unsure of themselves that they need to say, "I stop at all green lights when I drive. I know I don't have to, but I was afraid you'd ask why I don't and I couldn't figure out a good answer."

Let's suppose your interviewer knows and understands the regs. He's looking for a pilot who understands the rules, so he asks, "I see that you didn't log a whole bunch of PIC time you were entitled to count toward your instrument rating and commercial certificate. Looks like you spent about $3,000 in rental fees that you didn't have to. How come?"

Your answer?
 
As a Private Pilot, I logged it as PIC... like others have said above, who was PIC when I'm the only one in there? Isn't there a clause in there somewhere that states "sole manipulator of the controls" ??

I also logged PIC (once again, when I was time building, if I was the only one in the plane, who else would have been PIC?) for the 50hrs I needed to be PIC XC for the Instrument Rating...
 
Reminds me of the instructor who insisted that I couldn't give a student pilot a tailwheel endorsement till after he got his PPL. The DPE I spoke to thought that was rather funny.
 
butt said:
I say don't log it as PIC. Maybe technically you can, but just because you can doesn't mean you should. It's just one less thing you have to potentially explain in an interview...
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Dude, you are amazing. We should compile a book of your most provocative posts. There is no way you are a CFI.
 
butt said:
I say don't log it as PIC. Maybe technically you can, but just because you can doesn't mean you should. It's just one less thing you have to potentially explain in an interview...
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This is patently incorrect.
If you are flying an airplane with no one else in it, you are PIC. Period, end of story.
If I were interviewing you, and I saw solo time, and there was no PIC time after it, I may ask who was in charge while you were in the air by yourself...that would be a funny conversation, not a very serious one, but funny non the less.
 
butt said:
I say don't log it as PIC. Maybe technically you can, but just because you can doesn't mean you should. It's just one less thing you have to potentially explain in an interview...
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Really...? :dunno:

I think that the interview would be coming to an early end if they saw that you flew solo without being the PIC.
 
butt said:
I say don't log it as PIC. Maybe technically you can, but just because you can doesn't mean you should. It's just one less thing you have to potentially explain in an interview...
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Please explain in detail why one ever have to explain this in an interview.
 
btw, for those who came up with common sense responses like, "you're alone. you are the PIC," that's the wrong analysis. You may log PIC on student solo flights for one reason only – because 61.51(e)(4) says you can. Period.

For those who don't remember, until 1997 a solo student could not log PIC.
 
MidlifeFlyer said:
btw, for those who came up with common sense responses like, "you're alone. you are the PIC," that's the wrong analysis. You may log PIC on student solo flights for one reason only – because 61.51(e)(4) says you can. Period.

For those who don't remember, until 1997 a solo student could not log PIC.
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thanks, and I was not aware of that... (I did not start flying until 2003)
 
Bernoulli Fan said:
Dude, you are amazing. We should compile a book of your most provocative posts. There is no way you are a CFI.
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Don't you understand? Butt just reads a thread and then posts either the most asinine thing or exactly opposite of whatever the consensus is. Why isn't troll banned yet?
 
MidlifeFlyer said:
btw, for those who came up with common sense responses like, "you're alone. you are the PIC," that's the wrong analysis. You may log PIC on student solo flights for one reason only – because 61.51(e)(4) says you can. Period.
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But will they accept it in an interview at Southwest? Stick to the important topics, folks.

-mini
 
The only reason I can think of not to log PIC would be to make the 8710 easier to fill out--if you keep separate columns for solo and PIC. I never did that, so I spent an hour going through my logbook last night trying to separate my solo PIC from my PIC with others on board. A small price to pay for the 18.1 hours of PIC I logged before getting my license.
 
MidlifeFlyer said:
btw, for those who came up with common sense responses like, "you're alone. you are the PIC," that's the wrong analysis. You may log PIC on student solo flights for one reason only – because 61.51(e)(4) says you can. Period.
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Agree.

For those who don't remember, until 1997 a solo student could not log PIC.
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Which is why my logbook reads solo with no PIC for PPL. Then again, the majority on the board here had nothing to do with aviation in '97 :D

(btw, thx for the change date; I knew it was somewhere in the mid 90s, but couldn't find which year it was that the change occurred.)
 
shdw said:
Or don't know! Started in 02 myself. :D
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Sorry. I forgot. Senior moment.
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