LGA Expressway Visual Appr Plate Help

If anybody is having trouble at LGA, I would suggest personally just marking up your plate with your own notes. I think I have a picture of my old plate for the Expressway visual somewhere around here. It had notes everywhere (mainly from the first few times I shot it). Pay close attention when you do it, and put in altitudes/other landmarks, configurations, etc. The fun part comes when you are issued a new plate and you have to transfer everything over, but I always used to do that with my plates - highlighters, frequencies, altitudes, landmarks, you name it.

ETA: This isn't directed at the OP or anybody specific. Just a general statement of what has worked for me in the past.
 
Derg said:
The average LGA regular would loose their shizzle if ATL approach said "Hay Airliner 123, fly the Georgia farwr hunnert to Roswell, direct the BJ's off College Park cleared for the visual"
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I used to send them direct the Omni and Phillips Arena area and then go into a long diatribe about losing two hockey teams to other cities. Then I'd send them overhead the giant racist rock for the right base RNAV dangerous as hell visual, overhead the Pink Pony.

Not sent via TapaTalk because I have no earthly idea what that is, and why it has to be announced on every post
 
giant racist rock @A80TRACON I love it.

pilotmg1501 said:
If anybody is having trouble at LGA, I would suggest personally just marking up your plate with your own notes. I think I have a picture of my old plate for the Expressway visual somewhere around here. It had notes everywhere (mainly from the first few times I shot it). Pay close attention when you do it, and put in altitudes/other landmarks, configurations, etc. The fun part comes when you are issued a new plate and you have to transfer everything over, but I always used to do that with my plates - highlighters, frequencies, altitudes, landmarks, you name it.

ETA: This isn't directed at the OP or anybody specific. Just a general statement of what has worked for me in the past.
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This is about the only part where paper plates are better than an EFB, there's no writing notes on the ipad.
 
Umm:

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Yeah, that's just the plain ole plate. I was just demonstrating how you can write notes on ipad charts...
 
Cptnchia said:
That looks vaguely like ours, but without a bunch of other info.
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The one in the bus database has that little "sashay" around the crane. It's pretty entertaining to watch as you zip by it thinking "WHO THE HELL PAID OFF WHICH POLITICIAN?! DAAAAAAAAMN!!!"
 
IIRC you can build it in the FMS as

DIALS/2500
RW31134/2.8 (134* bearing at 2.8 miles, no altitude CRJ FMS had ability to program final runway way point)
RW31

Alternatively you might could cross reference

DIALS/2500
DIALS085/RW31134
RW31

Not completely sure on distance from DIALS, play around with it. You'll get a VNAV after DIALS provided the runway has a coded altitude. It's not perfect but better than nothing.

This is going off memory it might be completely wrong...
 
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Waaay too complicated. It's a freakin visual, turn the crap off and fly it to the runway.

I've seen this same thing on the Bus going into EWR on the Stadium visual Rwy 29. Guys will build the approach and it works great over TEB, GIMEE, and SLIMR. But that is it. The turn from SLIMR (1,500) to CHUMR (500) is far too aggressive with the AP on. Even if one drops the triangle (overfly) on top of the SLIMR and CHUMR fixes, and force the plane to fly over and then turn, it's still too much a turn. IMO the AP should be off latest by right past SLIMR at 1,500 as you make the gradual turn there to line up with the bridges and then roll out for the final 29.
 
Personally I loved having the 31 approach in the FMS. You click the AP off after or before dials, who cares, or let it lnav while you use VS to start down if you're both trying to look for the proceeding aircraft. Anything that lowers your workload is huge when flying IMO. Cross referencing the VNAV is huge and makes your lives a lot easier.

I've never shot the EWR approach, maybe it's like the DCA 19 where it's just easier to hand fly if you try and make it complicated. I saw guys put all sorts of altitudes and crossings on it, just make a 0.5mile final off RW19 and inbound it on a 328* radial IIRC.

If it was that simple and without threats we wouldn't have company specific RNAV procedures for them IMO. They help with getting and maintaining stabilized.
 
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