LGA accident

The warning system didnt alert. The truck driver didnt look before crossing the runway. The controller was working several frequencies at once. Safety failures at every level. ☹️
 
GolfChuck said:
A vehicle would only need an old 4096 mode A transponder for the asde to work. No need to buy something(edit: new), there has to be a ton of those that were scrapped or on shelves collecting dust now. I brought this up when the ads-b mandate happened, but I am nobody.


From the article I posted above:
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If you are correct, it is possible the lead vehicle (truck 1) did stop, and this truck (32) didn't get the message. It is not unusual for some vehicles in a convoy to not have an aviation radio onboard, but I would think ALL ARFF vehicles would have them. This article is the only source I saw mention the lack of radios. I did retrieve it at the time of this post and it is unchanged from last night when I linked it originally.
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The way I read that was an attempt to explain in layperson’s terms what a transponder is.

However, if you closely watch the video of the impact (post #64), it appears the lead vehicle DOES stop, and truck 35 goes around it, onto the runway. It also appears truck 35 starts a sharp left turn, right before impact. May have tried to evade, but too late…

Fortunately, there are a lot of live witnesses who will hopefully shed light on what happened from their perspective. The investigators will have a lot of info to work with.
 
GolfChuck said:
A vehicle would only need an old 4096 mode A transponder for the asde to work. No need to buy something(edit: new), there has to be a ton of those that were scrapped or on shelves collecting dust now. I brought this up when the ads-b mandate happened, but I am nobody.


From the article I posted above:
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If you are correct, it is possible the lead vehicle (truck 1) did stop, and this truck (32) didn't get the message. It is not unusual for some vehicles in a convoy to not have an aviation radio onboard, but I would think ALL ARFF vehicles would have them. This article is the only source I saw mention the lack of radios. I did retrieve it at the time of this post and it is unchanged from last night when I linked it originally.
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I took the “radio receiver and transmitter” as a layman’s explanation of what a transponder is rather than saying they didn’t have radio on board to talk to others.

In follow up calls I don’t believe the callsign truck 1 was used again so I’m assuming that was truck 1 that was hit
 
knot4u said:
CA is doing it! You'll be able to get from LA to SF in under three hours! The US is finally going to get a real bullet train! The rest of the states will surely follow this example of bureaucratic efficiency...

Wait a second, I just read the project is massively over budget and behind schedule. Not a single section of rail has been placed, no stations have been built and now it's going to run between Merced and Bakersfield (a very popular corridor for commuters). Billions of dollars have gone into this project over 2 1/2 decades and there's nothing to show for it, the Feds have decided to stop funding this entire debacle. There's no accounting where the all of the state tax or federal tax money went but they've spent $13.8 billion so far. CA has about 10% of the US population, now that fraud has become a big talking point the floodgates of info about what's going on in that state shouldn't be surprising. I love CA and I'd go back, but not until after they hit rock bottom and are recovering. That's what a democrat super majority leads to, all ideas and good vibes, zero pragmatism and actual work.
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They're spending money on lawsuits and environmental studies. Everyone that is against the HSR is actively fighting using laws to force more and more environmental review. Even though CAHSR ends up winning these, they still have to spend a lot of money on lawyers and stop progress in the meantime for whatever reason. It's absolutely asinine.
 
MikeD said:
Curiously, how much would LGA tower have been involved with trying to help UAL get a gate? Wouldn’t the UAL jet be talking to ramp tower for coordination of all of that? Then let ground know what solution has been made? Assuming the UAL jet wasn’t sitting on or blocking a taxiway or other movement area, but still, would LGA ground controller be involved with any coordination of that? It seems outside their scope of responsibility, if I’m understanding it right?
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So there’s a lot to this question which is fair. LGA had a pretty big transition where when we use to land we called ramp for our spot entry. Then idk maybe 6 months ago or more that was no longer required - even notam’d by company to NOT do it anymore. Ground will assign your spot when you land.

With this When United landed they were on B it appears, didn’t have a gate obviously. So they told tower that (which seems like he’s working ground too - unconfirmed got conflicting reports) then he moved him to A short of the entry but still on a taxiway. Which prompts him to say he will call to get him a gate and then lane entry. You can hear the phone calls in the video I provided. He called at least 3 people.

Whixh the United jet situation just kept getting worse in the matter of minutes it went from an odor that just needs to get a gate with fire. Then escalated to an emergency (not requiring evacuation) then nearly 60-90 seconds later it becomes if no gate comes open soon need air stairs (evacuate on the taxiway).

Any of the timeline can be corrected if I’m wrong but based on the videos and transcripts seems like this all led up to the moment the truck asks to cross. Which seems to be in a 5-7 minute timeframe roughly. Controller was doing A LOT! And I hope this can be seriously questioned because I’ve landed in LGA A LOT >10-11:00 pm local time. It can be very quiet and dead or busy like this and then throw in the emergency. Just a lot of brutally bad links chained together for an accident. And there’s a lot more we probably still don’t know about that could have broke this off but didn’t…
 
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