Leave UAL for FDX?

ian said:
@ SJI I've flown 453 hours in 14 months, 12 months on the line and been a line holder all but 2 months.
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Versus my dumb self who flew about 850 in that time frame on the same starship. So clearly it varies.
 
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Dan208B said:
That's impossible to say. If given the 757/767 involuntarily in class, it could be as low as 300. If given the 737 it could be as high as 1000. Too many variables there.
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You actually answered my question in the process of saying that you couldn't.
 
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Derg said:
You can be an actual astronaut and a great guy, but if you come off like a penis on your application, well, you're a penis.
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This thread makes me feel like such a slacker!
 
Derg said:
Quantitative metrics are an imprecise method of determining if someone is the right match for your company. I've got 1500 hours of PIC turbine in an Airbus, am I better or worse than a similarly qualified pilot with 5000 hours in the Airbus? Today's secret word is: qualitative.




YASSSS! Oh man, there are stories I'd like to tell but that has to wait for offline, over beer and "Story Time With Uncle Derg"
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True, but you won't know that until you call 'em out and see them in person, aka, interview.... right? Most pilot complaints on the internet seem to be more so that they aren't getting called to interview to give that chance to show they are the right match for the company, when all else is equal in terms of qualifications, volunteer work, education, etc. Having a base line for those competitive mins (as I listed) at least narrows the pool down some, because it definitely seems the airlines don't know which candidate would be good out of 15,000, so how about actually setting some decent mins and narrow that down to 3000-5000 pilots actually eligible? Pilot beotching *should* decrease when they know they aren't qualified in terms of meeting the mins for a job.


And I have no doubt there are some good interview bungle-up stories! I've heard some at our shop and it's kinda shocking how some people can be / choose to be during an interview for a job :eek:
 
MtnFlyer00 said:
New guy on the forum seeking advice.



Currently 8 months at UAL. RSV commuter. 28 years old, will retire top 30. Single, no kids. Just received and invite to interview with FDX. Live in mountain west, neither FDX nor UAL have a base here.

Pros at FDX are the ease of commuting with reserved JS. Larger % of widebody flying. For the the most part, they don't have a dog in the ME3 fight or other joint venture type flying loss. And finally, mission oriented style flying. No pax, terminal bag drag, FAs, TSA, etc. Pension + 8% D.C. Hard line bidding with conflict.

Cons are easily the night flying, the possibility of autonomous airliners in the future, Amazon style threats, as well as a potentially changing trade climate. Longer commute.

UAL has been great, but the volitility of the pax airline industry can be worrisome at times. Joint ventures, ME3 threats, etc. Also, when you're flying larger widebody equipment, you're essentially flying all nighters as well. RJ's, more 175's, etc.

I'll commute forever for both. This is one of my single biggest concerns.

Thoughts?
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No one knows the right way to go. Just ask the UAL guys that left FDX in 2000 thinking they won the lotto. We all know how that went.
 
What are the travel benefits like at FedEx for family? Obviously non revving on FedEx is just a crew member perk, so are family members eligible for ZED fares or anything similar? I'm sure that is not a huge issue if travel benefits aren't as great. I assume with those pay rates, paying for tickets to go on vacation is probably easier than the stress of non revving with flight loads these days...
 
BEEF SUPREME said:
So hey guys along similar lines I've been tapping this ass:

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And you know while its great and all I've been thinking about banging this instead:

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The first one is great and the best part about it is that she's loaded and has a really nice truck and a cabin in Tahoe. The second one is is even more rich though!

Gah! Why is life so hard!!!

:biggrin:
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Meanwhile... Those in the regional level trying to choose the least dodgy place is like....
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So many options, all are available and want you!
 
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Cherokee_Cruiser said:
True, but you won't know that until you call 'em out and see them in person, aka, interview.... right? Most pilot complaints on the internet seem to be more so that they aren't getting called to interview to give that chance to show they are the right match for the company, when all else is equal in terms of qualifications, volunteer work, education, etc. Having a base line for those competitive mins (as I listed) at least narrows the pool down some, because it definitely seems the airlines don't know which candidate would be good out of 15,000, so how about actually setting some decent mins and narrow that down to 3000-5000 pilots actually eligible? Pilot beotching *should* decrease when they know they aren't qualified in terms of meeting the mins for a job.


And I have no doubt there are some good interview bungle-up stories! I've heard some at our shop and it's kinda shocking how some people can be / choose to be during an interview for a job :eek:
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Let me fix all this for ya! :)

"*In my opinion"
 
JDean3204 said:
What are the travel benefits like at FedEx for family? Obviously non revving on FedEx is just a crew member perk, so are family members eligible for ZED fares or anything similar? I'm sure that is not a huge issue if travel benefits aren't as great. I assume with those pay rates, paying for tickets to go on vacation is probably easier than the stress of non revving with flight loads these days...
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Yes, there are some ID benefits, but I don't really know anyone who uses them.
 
JDean3204 said:
What are the travel benefits like at FedEx for family? Obviously non revving on FedEx is just a crew member perk, so are family members eligible for ZED fares or anything similar? I'm sure that is not a huge issue if travel benefits aren't as great. I assume with those pay rates, paying for tickets to go on vacation is probably easier than the stress of non revving with flight loads these days...
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We can get non-rev passes on SWA. Sometimes not an efficient way to travel, I hear, though it's greatly appreciated. That's about it as far as I know. Defiantly a disadvantage to freight.
 
Derg said:
Let me fix all this for ya! :)

"*In my opinion"
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So the better alternative is to leave mins at 1000 total and ATP mins, and open the flood gates for everyone and their mother, and then complain your hardest time is finding the right culturally-fit candidate?

If only there was some way to narrow the pool down some. A college degree requirement is one good way, but there are many others too.
 
JDean3204 said:
What are the travel benefits like at FedEx for family? Obviously non revving on FedEx is just a crew member perk, so are family members eligible for ZED fares or anything similar? I'm sure that is not a huge issue if travel benefits aren't as great. I assume with those pay rates, paying for tickets to go on vacation is probably easier than the stress of non revving with flight loads these days...
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One would think with Fedex and UPS salaries, you can just buy your own tickets and never have to worry about being bumped. Unless you're on United (sorry Seggy) ;)
 
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