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Annual rainfall in L.A. is less than 15", so that math checks.
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Annual rainfall in L.A. is less than 15", so that math checks.
Beep
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Ain’t no wig wag like a SOFLO wig wag!
fholbert
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I can't imagine 26" in 24 hours. I have a WX station at my house, saw just over 4" one day last month. May have been the most I've ever seen in CA.
The issue isn't that Fort Lauderdale lacks a storm drain system. The issue is Florida is so low and flat they can't get rid of the water, no slope to drain.
I live 20 miles from the ocean at an elevation of ~930'. Last time my property flooded a new boat was being launched, the Captains name was Noah.
ClearedForOption
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zmiller4
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Not only that, they’d still be screwed a few months later by lack of water because they built all those efficient drainages.
That's typical of most torrential rain anomalies. They tend to be very localized. It's all about heat and concentration and moisture content (think of the bubbles in a tea kettle as it approaches boil; those bubbles are the expression of the heat deltas).
What many folks still don't seem to understand about physics is that when you add heat to a closed system, the system doesn't heat up uniformly all at once. What happens first is relatively large localized extremes are created. If the atmosphere is the climate + heat, the frequency of those torrential (100, 500, 1000 yr events now happening multiple times per decade) rain storms is the weather.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
zmiller4
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I got a spot picked on the San Gabriel mountains to watch "libs get owned"
It would be pretty amusing if you went into the San Gabriels during a 2 foot rain event thinking you were going to be the one watching others “get owned”.
BobDDuck
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I was actually just talking to somebody on Sierra Madre SAR about swift water rescue stuff.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
I was only joking. Those mountains are treacherous. They still haven't found Julian Sands.
zmiller4
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I can’t imagine the season they’ve had out there,
I went to college about 4 miles from the mouth of San Antonio Canyon (drains Mt Baldy) and the school was built on an alluvial fan with up to half meter, rounded boulders.
There was apparently enough water at one point to push a thousand pound rock 4 miles out of the mountains.
fholbert
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I was just reading about Tulare Lake in Central California. I’d never heard of it before because it’s not normally there, It’s going to get really big when the snow melts. A crap load of farm land will be underwater for a couple of years.
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SurferLucas
Southern Gentleman
That’s like the erratics we have in Eastern WA..from the Lake Missoula floods (really cool to read about, and the story is proof that can’t always trust the science)
zmiller4
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I think you’re referring the change in how we view the scablands as proof we can’t “trust the science”?
100% agree that early 20th century science had some struggles…but I’m not sure that’s applicable to the present day.
Wardogg
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Lake Mead, defies projections. Written last week.
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Lake Mead water level rises, defies projections
When it comes to water and Lake Mead every little bit helps.
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SurferLucas
Southern Gentleman
Oh no, more of the snobbery of it all. They did everything the could to denounce this young, from the “west” geologist. Simply because he wasn’t from the established East Coast.
National Geographic observes: "As philosopher Thomas Kuhn observed, new scientific truths often win the day not so much because opponents change their minds, but because they die off. By the time the Geological Society of America finally recognized Bretz’s work with the Penrose Medal, the field’s highest honour, it was 1979 and Bretz was 96 years old. He joked to his son, "All my enemies are dead, so I have no one to gloat over."
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SurferLucas
Southern Gentleman
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This is the part I was referencing:
Bretz encountered resistance to his theories from the geology establishment of the day. The geology establishment was resistant to such a sweeping theory for the origin of a broad landscape for a variety of reasons, including lack of familiarity with the remote areas of the interior Pacific Northwest where the research was based, and the lack of status and reputation of Bretz in the eyes of the largely Ivy League-based geology elites. Furthermore, his theory implied the potential possibilities of a Biblical flood, which the scientific community strongly rejected.[9]The Geological Society of Washington invited the young Bretz to present his previously published research at a meeting on 12 January 1927, where several other geologists presented competing theories. Bretz saw this as an ambush, and referred to the group as six "challenging elders". Their intention was to defeat him in a public debate, and thereby end the challenge his theories posed to their conservative interpretation of uniformitarianism.
I had no idea about Lake Missoula (obviously being from GA I had little knowledge of Montana in general), but I flew with a Captain who grew up in the area and taught me about it. Never looked at flying into MSO the same.
Another cool feature in the NW is Dry Falls, worth a read up on.
This is the part I was referencing:
Bretz encountered resistance to his theories from the geology establishment of the day. The geology establishment was resistant to such a sweeping theory for the origin of a broad landscape for a variety of reasons, including lack of familiarity with the remote areas of the interior Pacific Northwest where the research was based, and the lack of status and reputation of Bretz in the eyes of the largely Ivy League-based geology elites. Furthermore, his theory implied the potential possibilities of a Biblical flood, which the scientific community strongly rejected.[9]The Geological Society of Washington invited the young Bretz to present his previously published research at a meeting on 12 January 1927, where several other geologists presented competing theories. Bretz saw this as an ambush, and referred to the group as six "challenging elders". Their intention was to defeat him in a public debate, and thereby end the challenge his theories posed to their conservative interpretation of uniformitarianism.
I had no idea about Lake Missoula (obviously being from GA I had little knowledge of Montana in general), but I flew with a Captain who grew up in the area and taught me about it. Never looked at flying into MSO the same.
Another cool feature in the NW is Dry Falls, worth a read up on.
