King Air short of the runway KPWK
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ozziecat35
4 out of 5 great lakes prefer Michigan.
Just listened to the tapes, pilot sure didn't help his cause there...I could barely understand him. Glad everyone walked away.
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Murdoughnut
Well sized member
I heard a story from my friend's pt. 91 operation that a new kid had been hired to fly their KA 90 and was a friend of one of the execs - something along those lines. Ended up seizing one engine due to fuel exhaustion, and then magically shut down the still running engine by mistake. Landed belly up in a lake. Funniest part of the story was that the plane was actually relatively ok, and was floating on the surface. Local boater helped him tug the plane to shore. Unfortunately, a local park ranger said that having the plane on shore was illegal and threatened them with arrest if they didn't push it back out into the water. They did and it sank. Kid does something other than flying now.
I can't find the accident report from it, but my friend isn't one to make things like this up.
I can't find the accident report from it, but my friend isn't one to make things like this up.
ozziecat35
4 out of 5 great lakes prefer Michigan.
Apophis
Resident Iconoclast
Do you know where the incident happened? Even if you only know the state, it would be fairly simple to narrow down.
SteveCostello
My member is well-known.
To be honest, I don't think I'd hire any pilot that has ever run out of fuel (save for an actual mechanical issue of some sort, like a busted fuel line, etc.). Making sure there is sufficient gas in tank for your trip is pretty paramount as far as a pilot's responsibilities are concerned, no matter what the MTOW is.
WhatRJ
Well-Known Member
Thats gold.
swisspilot
Well-Known Member
Actually fuel starvation is the main cause of many accidents in the non-airline world, especially when operating VFR and with smaller planes.
Outside the US or in any place with some decent weather forecast, fuel availability, alternates availability, it is really easy to put yourself in situations where you may run out of fuel, I got close couple times and unless I would have taken off above MTOW there wouldn`t have been a better outcome then a precautionary landing.
Maybe yes in the 121 and 135 IFR world there are no excuses...
Murdoughnut
Well sized member
Do you know where the incident happened? Even if you only know the state, it would be fairly simple to narrow down.
For some reason I thought he said it was in Lake Michigan - will ask him myself next time I see him. Not sure what side of the lake.
escapepilot
Well-Known Member
IMHO this is a MAJOR faux pas on the pilot. Looks like the diversion around the storm in central IN/IL added 15 mins to his planned route so even if he had made it, he would have been way under IFR mins.
T/O w/FSII
Well-Known Member
You know your right. Running out of gas and most likely killing everyone in the back, people on the ground and my self is really not a big deal. Thanks for reminding me that running out of gas is just as normal as a normal landing! I forgot.
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Murdoughnut
Well sized member
Do you know where the incident happened? Even if you only know the state, it would be fairly simple to narrow down.
I'm still searching but I think it may have been this one ... http://www.ntsb.gov/AviationQuery/brief.aspx?ev_id=20001211X15359&key=1
Obviously this report is pretty limited and leaves much of what he told me out. Also might have been a lake in Michigan, and not Lake Michigan. Will double check with him.
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Okie_Pilot
Pitts Builder
"92JR AIN'T GUNNA MAKE IT!!"
What?
He says that 4 times before ATC finally deciphers and realizes that he'll be landing short.
I agree. Really didn't help himself there with the accent.
