KCM

You should see JFK.

Far, far worse.

I really wouldn't mind paying $1/year to use the system. That would make about half of us eligible for KCM scream "Bah!" and shorten up delays at the checkpoint.

You really don't want me as CEO or FAA Administrator. You would simply hate me.
I'm pretty sure we save a skosh more than $1/year/crewmember in terms of reliability on it.
 
I'm pretty sure we save a skosh more than $1/year/crewmember in terms of reliability on it.

Well I figure it's more symbolic if anything.

There is a number of people that will balk at the idea of having to pay for it, out of their pocket, at any cost… thus, thinning the herd around the KCM desk.
 
Well I figure it's more symbolic if anything.

There is a number of people that will balk at the idea of having to pay for it, out of their pocket, at any cost… thus, thinning the herd around the KCM desk.
I can't put a dollar value on it right now, but if pressed, I certainly could.
 
Some of our cohorts behind the locking cockpit door tend to arrive at the KCM point and have to dig their credentials out of their purse or their cabin bag and want to have a conversation with the screener and their coworkers at the checkpoint.

These the same cohorts that loudly talk in the hotel hallway when you arrive after midnight then complain the next day about loud people in the hallway when they were trying to sleep?
 
Why does everybody bother with the passport? Your drivers license is in your pocket... I don't get it.
Fishing it out of my wallet is harder than fishing my passport out of my brain bag, and my habit is to put my car keys in when I get my passport out.

(And I typically do that on the employee bus so I'm not "that guy." Well, in that respect, anyway.)
 
These the same cohorts that loudly talk in the hotel hallway when you arrive after midnight then complain the next day about loud people in the hallway when they were trying to sleep?

"And Circle gets a Square!" Ding!Ding!Ding!Ding!Ding!Ding!Ding!Ding!
 
Why does everybody bother with the passport? Your drivers license is in your pocket... I don't get it.

Passport is in my side pocket of my laptop bag, my license is in my moneyclip deeper in the bag.

If you're flying around all day with a wallet in your back pocket, you're just asking for back problems. /preachyderg

Wallets are bad.
 
If he approached it as "No one owes me anything" and "I have options", he could have easily slid through the pre-check line in seconds most likely.

Should the guy have been there, sure. But that person was about to go fly a magical jet, in the sky! With a toilet, in the air! And beverages!
Double check that I have it.
 
The overall question, WHY JOIN ALPA?

If there isn't a benefit to joining, or enough of a benefit, that is an ALPA issue.

There are some pretty horribly paid ALPA pilots and some non-union pilots that make the same or more than the top ALPA carriers in their bracket.

If all ALPA carriers were paid 25% more and enjoyed great job stability (hahaha..ha.) you'd see more of a push to join internally.
Well, Seggy's point is that non-ALPA pilots ARE enjoying the benefits--KCM, in this case--without having helped make it happen.

It's kinda the same way I feel about my gf's adult children living under our roof rent-free. All the benefits for none of the burden.
 
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