KCM since the no uniform change

Had no problems in MSP today while wearing civilian clothes. TSA agents said the transition was going very easily for them. Not sure what that supposed to mean lol.
 
BobDDuck said:
You've been lucky. In 2 years of commuting one to two times a week with KCM I got "extra" screening 5 or 6 times.

When you are in Tulsa and hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.
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I think I've been screened three times in the past couple years.

They seem to always apologize, but it's unnecessary. We've still got supposedly educated people doing absolutely ridiculous things.
 
I'm willing to bet there is truth to it but it is a localized issue. I have seen a few TSA checkpoints with nothing but friendly and professional agents, and I have been to some that perpetuate every bad stereotype they have.
 
Derg said:
I think I've been screened three times in the past couple years. They seem to always apologize, but it's unnecessary. We've still got supposedly educated people doing absolutely ridiculous things.
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Actually, I don't think those people are educated one bit - not even to a supposedly level.

Do we really need to feel the brunt of a few dumb flight attendants or pilots? More importantly, if it's rampers who are using their travel benefits and SIDA access to conduct criminal activity, perhaps the magnifying class needs to be placed squarely on that employee group and the perhaps questionable people airlines seem perfectly alright hiring.

Saying any of these folks are supposedly educated waters down the fact that no, clearly they are not. And the hammer needs to fall hard and with much fury. You screw it up, you're terminated. Run to your Union to get your job back, and show some remorse but otherwise you need to be toast instead of dirtying up the one few aspects that makes coming to work less of a circus.
 
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Ajax said:
I'm willing to bet there is truth to it but it is a localized issue. I have seen a few TSA checkpoints with nothing but friendly and professional agents, and I have been to some that perpetuate every bad stereotype they have.
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I'm absolutely certain they say the same about us!
 
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Apologies on the word usage.

And yes, TSA does have a job. We also have a job, to not make their job any more difficult. A boneheaded pilot, or flight attendant, should get no protection for making an absolutely boneheaded decision. If you are conducting criminal activity you're going to get caught. Its not our job to shield them or make excuses for their actions.
 
I had a 4-day last week with overnights in EWR all three nights. I was "randomly" screen 2 of the 3 times I went through KCM. The TSO was very clear that every third person in line would be sent to pre-check. Not so random. And more random that before the change.
 
maschmi2 said:
I had a 4-day last week with overnights in EWR all three nights. I was "randomly" screen 2 of the 3 times I went through KCM. The TSO was very clear that every third person in line would be sent to pre-check. Not so random. And more random that before the change.
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Technically, I believe it's systematic sampling, but "random" sounds like a more accessible term to use for the average joe who would probably say "Systematic Samplin'? What in TAAAAAAAARnations are you talking about?" :)
 
I personally know a pilot who works for the TSA as a screener. They wanted to get into CBT and getting "points" working for a federal position was how they planned to get in.

I also know others who are retired military doing it for extra money.

Yes, there is a boat load of $8/hr folks making $15/hr working for the federal government, but there are quite a few decent people there. Just like us, they don't make the rules they just enforce them.
 
It just seems to be from reading comments here, and a few other sites, that the EWR TSA is making up their own rules. I've seen 1 in 3 get pax screening, 1 in 10, and 1 in 20. So which is it? Of all the times I've been through any of the EWR KCM checkpoints, I have never ever been subject to the regular passenger screening. I have done the hands a few times. This is all pre-no uniform.
 
For those of you that have been randomly selected out of uniform for the full show, were you given the option to put your uniform on in order to keep your liquids?
 
SpiceWeasel said:
Why would you attempt to violate the liquids restriction via KCM?
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Because the restriction isn't there if you just happen to put on that generic uniform that's already folded in your bag...

It baffles me that TSA uses the uniform to allow us to bypass the liquids rule. The ID is the hardest thing to obtain. Anybody can buy a uniform.
 
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