CK
Well-Known Member
It is a once piece wing held on by links. Easy to remove from the aircraft by removing the links, but it would be hard to rip one off inflight.
KBTL Hawker 800 crash
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It is a once piece wing held on by links. Easy to remove from the aircraft by removing the links, but it would be hard to rip one off inflight.
knot4u
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Sounds similar to a Lear. If you have all the right equipment (stand's, lifts, slings) removing and installing the actual wing isn't the hard part of the job, it's prepping the airplane (remove engines and mounts, remove tip tank or winglet, remove MLG, disconnect all control cables, hydraulic lines, fuel lines and anything else that's in the way).
What crew qualifications are you referring to?
Quite a few pilots in this thread have given first-hand experience with performing stall tests on this model. Maybe they can help?
TUCKnTRUCK
That guy
There’s no specific qualification to do the tests. If you can legally the plane, you can do the stall tests.
Generally the only reason a Mexican hawker goes to Michigan for a few weeks is inspection. The stall check is done after C check, or if more than two panels are removed. It was either A or B. Otherwise, you don’t do the stall checks. Nobody does them for the hell of it. Idk if the 3rd was a mechanic or otherwise.
Pilot Fighter
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It’s a one-piece wing, I can’t picture a failure that results in loss of one side. Maybe the outer portion portion of one side.
Crockrocket94
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These are the same planes that can take a missile and keep on flying.... Doubt the wing fell off.
TUCKnTRUCK
That guy
Take a missile, land on a grass strip, get put back together and keep flying for another 20+ years.
DropTank
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Likely a mech, but not 100% sure.
If the mechanic won't fly on the test flight, neither will I.
Turned down a few test flights for such reason.
knot4u
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I asked the question because I didn't know if it was similar to the Lears, a manufacturer approved test pilot was required for the stall tests. I have no idea what I would've done the first time I got into a stall/spin if I didn't have an instructor with me. So what you're saying is these folks are pushed into the darkest portion of the airplanes envelope with no actual training? I've said it before that I don't like Hawkers and this just solidifies it.
TUCKnTRUCK
That guy
I don’t think it was
If it was a Duncan Tech, I’m pretty positive that their insurance will prohibit this in the future.
The only reason they wouldn’t want to be in is because of horror stories, conversely the only reason they would hop on no problem is because of a lack of experience with them. Tbh I don’t really base much on that. I ask to see the work cards and talk to the tech that calibrated them. If they know what they’re doing- then it’s kinda irrelevant.