mike295855
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Ladies and Gentlemen it is official. No more will it be called the 747-ADV say hello to the 747-800
http://747.newairplane.com/
-Michael
http://747.newairplane.com/
-Michael
Its official!...747..
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Timbuff10
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Ha, I like the musak they have there...
The wing looks different than the current 400 but I am betting that will go away just like some of the things that made the 787 look cool. I bet it will end up looking just like a 400.
I wonder if they are going to make the windows higher up and bigger like the 787. I looke like it in that picture with the guy in his fancy seat.
They sure did mention the A380 alot on that website, I guess this is their answer. This new 747 sure does look alot better, at least on those graphics.
The wing looks different than the current 400 but I am betting that will go away just like some of the things that made the 787 look cool. I bet it will end up looking just like a 400.
I wonder if they are going to make the windows higher up and bigger like the 787. I looke like it in that picture with the guy in his fancy seat.
They sure did mention the A380 alot on that website, I guess this is their answer. This new 747 sure does look alot better, at least on those graphics.
ETAV8R
Well-Known Member
Looks great. They mention the A380 because that is the main competitor.
I am surprised they didn't stretch the upper deck more.
I don't care for the looks of the A380 and if the 74 could have a longer upper deck and better performance it would definately give the 380 more competition.
I am surprised they didn't stretch the upper deck more.
I don't care for the looks of the A380 and if the 74 could have a longer upper deck and better performance it would definately give the 380 more competition.
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
mpenguin1 said:
Hey Pengy...those screens in the cockpit shot looked like CRT's they putting LCD's in the new version?
Also is that an all new wing design? Or a tweaked version of the old/current one?
-Matthew
tonyw
Well-Known Member
jergar999 said:
No need to guess. Cargolux.
http://today.reuters.com/business/newsArticle.aspx?type=basicIndustries&storyID=nL15202427
And doesn't the -400 already have winglets?
mike295855
New Member
Boeing must consider redesigning the wings because currently those winglets and the extension they made on the wing on the 747-400 aren't good enough to meet the expectations they are planning to introduce. Just like boeing changed the wings on the 737 next generations they will on the 747. They need to change the leading edge on that wing that is currently with the 747-400. It doesn't help with lift like the 777/787 wings do. Trust me, the wings you see in the design will more than likely be extremely similiar to the outcome.
TrinidadGT20
Vice President of Awesome
Timbuff10 said:
Well, it's about flippin time they launched it. I got tired of the "we hope to launch it soon" hype.
I wouldn't expect to see a new 737 for at least another 7 years.
mike295855
New Member
TrinidadGT20 said:
I highly doubt that we will see a new 737 in the coming years but we might see some modifications done to them, if the demand continues.
The 737 has been a great aircraft and has served well. The A318,319,320,321 on the other hand have probably been superior in certain aspects since they are newer aircraft.
Either way I am excited for the new 747-800 that is on its way. I really hope to see some passenger orders and hopefully BA,UA, and others will get into the ordering scene.
tonyw
Well-Known Member
mike295855 said:
Why do you say this, Mike? Do you have some insight into the design of the wings? I'm not saying this to be a smart ass, I'm asking a question that I'd love to hear the answer to.
mike295855 said:
Not sure I'd go along with that, either. Remember, we were promised the shark fin tail on the 787 right up until the final release.
mike295855
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tonyw said:
No offense taken to any of the questions you posed. I really am basing my answers on what I have read at airliners.net and others websites.
I personaly think that Boeing must redesign the wing and bring in more economial engines if they want to accomplish the goals they have set. I mean think about it. As it stands right now the wings on the 747-400, as extended as they are, don't help it much in lift (actually they do, but I am comparing it to the possiblity of a 777/787 style wing). When beoing spoke about an elongated wing for the 777 it came true. I think, personally, that is the future of Boeings style. Boeing seems to have more experience on wing testing than Airbus. The A380 had a minimum 10mi wake turbulence set, and this might be due to its size but primarily to its wings, either way they had discussed this prior to the actual aircraft being bulit.
I know that many of us were dissapointed with the fact that the 787 didn't come out to look the way they orgininally showed, but when that concept came it it was an extreme design compared to other prototypes. This 747-800, as you can see by the pictures, is more of a conservative approach than the 787 and I think Boeing learned.
Either way Boeing says it won't see a passenger order until 2006. I really hope to see the quen of the skies fly again.
tonyw
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Mike, they're going to use the GENx engines, which are much more efficient engines.
As for quoting airliners.net as a source, um.........don't.
And the queen of the skies is flying now, and will continue to fly for a long, long, long time. I believe BA's got some 747-400s that are like, two years old. Count on those flying for another 30 years at a minimum.
As for quoting airliners.net as a source, um.........don't.
And the queen of the skies is flying now, and will continue to fly for a long, long, long time. I believe BA's got some 747-400s that are like, two years old. Count on those flying for another 30 years at a minimum.
mike295855
New Member
tonyw said:
I know they are going to have the GENx engines and they are very good when it comes to efficiency.
As for BA, I read over at Airliners.net that BA won't order until they have seen the 747-800 perform for years. I highly doubt that is the case. So I see what you meant about quoting as a source airliners.net
Timbuff10
Well-Known Member
mike295855 said:
I remember when I was working at Frontier and had access to alot of information about the airline and even the airport. I would read stuff on airliners.net that was not even close to being true but then every now and then some stuff was dead on accurate. I would say they are wrong in their speculations about 90% of the time. It does make for some interesting and sometimes fun reading though. One example that comes to mind was I got into an argument with someone on there about how the A318 will/not fit under the bridge at DIA. He had all this evidence on measurements trying to prove it would not fit and the tail would strike the bridge and I kept saying it will fit just fine. Well about 20 minutes after making a post saying it will fit (and I was at work during this), some Captain forgot that he was in a 318 instead of a 319 and he went right under the bridge. Guess what, he fit just fine with room to spare.
You have to remember that alot of those people on there are either 15 years old or just some bozo that sits in 6C. There are a few on there though that work for airlines who do know what they are talking about but they don't usually post stuff too often. After my Frontier experience I looked at that website in a whole different way. I think someone once said, "so much experience, so little knowledge".
Now here is to hoping that the wing in the drawing is what the real one will look like. That just looks cool! And hopefully some Airlines from the US will buy it so I can fly it some day.