interesting emergency authority reg

who cares about the parsec reference what I wanna know is HOW the memo came to be and more importantly the story that guywhoflies was hopefully gonna tell us about the LCA who was denied the seat.
 
poser765 said:
I'm starting to get worried no one got the reference.
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You mean that if you were getting pulled off the line that fast, the CP doing the pulling would likely be deceased by the time you made it off the line? (Assuming you were traveling as fast as Solo was during his alleged Kessel run). ...that reference? ;)
 
A1TAPE said:
According to the regs, as PIC you have the emergency authority to "exclude any any all persons" from the flight deck in the "interest of safety" with this reg in place could you in theory deny a fed or a LCA from the flight deck in the interest of safety? Im sure that you would have to explain for it but could you say you did it in the interest of safety as you were not up to doing a LCA ride or a fed ride? Might be a stupid question but Ive always wondering if anyone ever tried to deny a fed or LCA under the guise of emergency authority.
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I had an LCA who was being disruptive and literally got in the way of the operation.

Mid-flight I told him to exit the cockpit and sit on the FA jumpseat and, I quote, "I'm not even kidding". I bought him to the cockpit after landing, had him sit in the copilots chair and told him why I did what I did so we were clear.

Never heard a peep about it.

If I don't think something is safe, you're attempting to beat my copilot down when he's performing his job as directed by me, well, bye Felicia.

They're not gods and you need to do what you have to do, as captain, to ensure you run a safe, comfortable, professional environment.

You're a captain, be a captain and if someone that misinterprets an ancillary title with organizational importance, well, you're the CEO of the aircraft. It doesn't mean you won't get questioned for your decision ever, but any company worth it's IATA symbol is going to recognize when you did the right thing.
 
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Derg said:
I had an LCA who was being disruptive and literally got in the way of the operation.

Mid-flight I told him to exit the cockpit and sit on the FA jumpseat and, I quote, "I'm not even kidding". I bought him to the cockpit after landing, had him sit in the copilots chair and told him why I did what I did so we were clear.

Never heard a peep about it.

If I don't think something is safe, you're attempting to beat my copilot down when he's performing his job as directed by me, well, bye Felicia.

They're not gods and you need to do what you have to do, as captain, to ensure you run a safe, comfortable, professional environment.

You're a captain, be a captain and if someone that misinterprets an ancillary title with organizational importance, well, you're the CEO of the aircraft. It doesn't mean you won't get questioned for your decision ever, but any company worth it's IATA symbol is going to recognize when you did the right thing.
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Someone I know did the same thing to a notorious ER LCA, I'm sure you know, that goes by the name of a very classy fast food Mexican restaurant.
 
I know who you mean.

Notorious. But if he's on my seat and working, he's going to be observant. If he's not working, he's going to be professional, pleasant and quiet.
 
A1TAPE said:
Speaking of checking events, for LCA checks do they ask you random reg questions like some of the feds do during a fed check or do they just sit back and watch you fly?
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Sit back and watch. It's not an oral exam, it's a line check. Anyone who was looking for a reason to dequal a crew should have their letter pulled. The purpose of a line check is to evaluate and then mentor, in that order.
 
jtrain609 said:
Sit back and watch. It's not an oral exam, it's a line check. Anyone who was looking for a reason to dequal a crew should have their letter pulled. The purpose of a line check is to evaluate and then mentor, in that order.
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Orto tell you about their time in China flying 330s






Or about their Amex Black card








Or how they went to Stanford








Or how they got hired at AA then decided to not go due to health insurance, o but wait they stopped the underwear bomber so they have a guaranteed SJI job










Or how they are a DPE in FL









I feel like I am missing a lot.

@OptimusCrime
 
ClarkGriswold said:
Or tell you about their time in China flying 330s






Or about their Amex Black card








Or how they went to Stanford








Or how they got hired at AA then decided to not go due to health insurance, o but wait they stopped the underwear bomber so they have a guaranteed SJI job










Or how they are a DPE in FL









I feel like I am missing a lot.

@OptimusCrime
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Whoa he has a black card?
 
jtrain609 said:
Sit back and watch. It's not an oral exam, it's a line check. Anyone who was looking for a reason to dequal a crew should have their letter pulled. The purpose of a line check is to evaluate and then mentor, in that order.
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We only do a captain line check every other year. Aren't most airlines every year?
 
And my answer to the question.. key word is "emergency" authority. If there's no emergency then you don't really have a good reason to kick them out.
Just like authority to deviate from other regs as fit for an emergency, not just because you feel like it.

Every fed I've had on board has been no problem; just treat them like a person and they will do the same to you. (In my experience)
 
Paging guywhoflies guywhoflies please come to the reading room to tell us the story of the LCA who got denied.
 
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