Interesting crop dusting vid

RedBaron2000 said:
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RedBaron2000 said:
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Most were covered in posts before this mine.

The fecal matter fertilizer is one we use. The thing I don't like is the fecal matter is human fecal matter which has the possibility of transmitting disease. If I can find the warning labels in a field I will have to post a pic. Not sure picking up a disease from organic tomatoes is worth the extra dollar a pound. :)
 
Cessnaflyer said:
Or grow your own.
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We'd definitely grow our own if we could. I get the whole risk/benefit of pesticides. Do you guys have any study or article you could link to that compares traditional pesticides vs the supposedly "safer" ones? I'm no expert, but my initial thought is that you're choosing between fighting bacteria vs fighting the long term effects of chemicals. You know pretty quickly whether you get E. coli or not, and I'm just guessing its easier to wash away the E. coli causing bacteria than the traditional stuff.

Again, I'm no expert. Please educate me.
 
RedBaron2000 said:
We'd definitely grow our own if we could. I get the whole risk/benefit of pesticides. Do you guys have any study or article you could link to that compares traditional pesticides vs the supposedly "safer" ones? I'm no expert, but my initial thought is that you're choosing between fighting bacteria vs fighting the long term effects of chemicals. You know pretty quickly whether you get E. coli or not, and I'm just guessing its easier to wash away the E. coli causing bacteria than the traditional stuff.

Again, I'm no expert. Please educate me.
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Depending on the crop nasty compounds are still used. Not much to educate you on I'm not going to do your research.
 
RedBaron2000 said:
Do you guys have any study or article you could link to that compares traditional pesticides vs the supposedly "safer" ones?
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"Safer" is largely a green marketing concept. Organic crops can have many commercial pesticides and chemicals applied to them, the only real difference is that product must be derived from naturally occurring chemicals instead of synthetically produced ones. This means very little. Naturally occurring substances can be very poisonous and carcinogenic. In some cases, using a naturally occurring pesticide that is "organic approved" requires multiple higher doses than if a much smaller application of the equivalent synthetic pesticide were used. In other words, you can get a greater exposure to poison (along with the surrounding environment) with the organic crop.

Organic isn't bad, I prefer it in most cases... but it's not what most people think it is. Buy local when possible, then you're supporting people who live in your own community and who have some accountability to their neighbors.
 
rframe said:
Organic isn't bad, I prefer it in most cases... but it's not what most people think it is.
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That's the succinct way to summarize organics.

I have no problem with people choosing organics, so long as they understand organic is not equal to natural.
 
RedBaron2000 said:
Do you guys have any study or article you could link to that compares traditional pesticides vs the supposedly "safer" ones?
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OK, cracked.com isn't exactly a scientific journal, but this article is spot on Re: organic foods.

http://www.cracked.com/article_17084_5-ways-people-are-trying-to-save-world-that-dont-work.html

A few excerpts

So what's the problem with eating healthier food and saving the Earth? Nothing, except that the food may not be any healthier. And that's even if you can afford the (much) higher prices. Oh, and the impact on the planet may actually be worse.
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As for the environment, it turns out organic farming has its own issues. Because it is much less efficient, there is actually a shortage of organic food available...We're no scientists, but we think that doing things like shipping organic milk 900 miles over the highway in a truck belching diesel fumes is probably canceling out any environmental benefits you might have gained from going organic.
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Oh, and did we mention organic farming uses a lot of manure to fertilize crops? This results in a greater risk of contamination. Although organic produce only accounts for one percent of the food supply, it accounts for eight percent of the E. coli cases in the U.S.
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RedBaron2000 said:
Now those are some steep turns!
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One of my flight instructors was kinda extreme- for example, he had just got his MC racing license in College Station. My point is that there was Nothing lazy in our Lazy 8's.
Pre-examiner Checkride w/ CP had him hollerin' " that's military standards"!
Standard 8's are borrring.
 
My hats off to you ag pilots. I used to do banner towing and my job now regularly takes me into 1100-1200' grass strips with blind approaches and no go-arounds, but that's some pretty hairy flying that demands skillz.

Also, thanks for the articles and info on the different types of pesticides used...definitely something to think about.
 
I'll have to watch the videos/read the thread later, but possibly relevant:

Craziest thing I've ever seen.

 
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