In-house Delta Job Fair, October 20/21 2017

Derg said:
Yes.

The "elevator pitch" isn't specifically a career fair skill, but a networking skill.

Be able to introduce yourself, tell a person who you are, what you're after and make it actionable. SOOOOOO many people run into someone that could help them and literally treat it like Pokémon.

"HI I'm Frank, can I have a business card?" And then 12 hours later you get a random email from a person you don't remember with a LOR request from airline apps
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@Derg Serious question here, as someone who was lucky enough to score a slot at the upcoming fair:

Can you elaborate on "making it actionable," what does that mean practically speaking?
Also, isn't "what I'm after" already implicit?

Apologies in advance for admittedly being overly dense about this stuff.
 
SMACFUM said:
@Derg Serious question here, as someone who was lucky enough to score a slot at the upcoming fair:

Can you elaborate on "making it actionable," what does that mean practically speaking?
Also, isn't "what I'm after" already implicit?

Apologies in advance for admittedly being overly dense about this stuff.
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Well it depends on the scenario.

At an interview, tell me who you are and make me want to learn more.

If in passing or at the bar, give me something to do with the information you just gave me.
 
Cptnchia said:
Can I just say, David has really been outdoing himself in the foot meet mouth SM blast du jour.
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Look, he doesn't want to work there, ok? Hes quite happy at his job and has plenty of free time to argue with recruiters at the job he no longer wants.
 
Cptnchia said:
Can I just say, David has really been outdoing himself in the foot meet mouth SM blast du jour.
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The social media equivalent of the jetblue flight attendant grab beer and blow the slide. He (and they being any others) know full well the consequence of what they are about to say (type/write), but since they know they are going out some are apparently not gonna go out quietly.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
The social media equivalent of the jetblue flight attendant grab beer and blow the slide. He (and they being any others) know full well the consequence of what they are about to say (type/write), but since they know they are going out some are apparently not gonna go out quietly.
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Maybe some, definitely not all. And as @Derg says, Delta is not the only airline paying attention.
 
mastermags said:
Look, he doesn't want to work there, ok? Hes quite happy at his job and has plenty of free time to argue with recruiters at the job he no longer wants.
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I spent some time thinking about the psychology behind people publicly showing their asses on social media and I think I have it figured out.

The drum beat says "SHORTAGE! SHORTAGE! SHORTAGE!" which, at some levels of aviation there is, but not at every level. So the perception is that "I've got all this stuff, you should be kissing my ass and offering me a job because I've got all this stuff".

But when 5000-plus people showed up for 600 slots and they were gone in less than two minutes, that personality profile got rattled and showed their true selves. The basic unfairness of something that they should have been a shoe-in for because clearly they're hiring everyone BUT people like them, which statistically (as proven) isn't accurate at all.

It's kind of like star of the play "Oklahoma" from Paducah High School (his professional circle) that everyone likes that moves to Los Angeles to pursue an acting career. Everyone says he's going to be a star, but once he gets to Hollywood (reality) he learns that absolutely everyone surrounding him played the lead in the high school play and others have been doing community theater, Broadway, Off-Broadway, commercials, Sitcoms and there's a lot of competition for that Crest commercial that pays scale and if he could just get that callback...
 
Derg said:
I spent some time thinking about the psychology behind people publicly showing their asses on social media and I think I have it figured out.

The drum beat says "SHORTAGE! SHORTAGE! SHORTAGE!" which, at some levels of aviation there is, but not at every level. So the perception is that "I've got all this stuff, you should be kissing my ass and offering me a job because I've got all this stuff".

But when 5000-plus people showed up for 600 slots and they were gone in less than two minutes, that personality profile got rattled and showed their true selves. The basic unfairness of something that they should have been a shoe-in for because clearly they're hiring everyone BUT people like them, which statistically (as proven) isn't accurate at all.

It's kind of like star of the play "Oklahoma" from Paducah High School (his professional circle) that everyone likes that moves to Los Angeles to pursue an acting career. Everyone says he's going to be a star, but once he gets to Hollywood (reality) he learns that absolutely everyone surrounding him played the lead in the high school play and others have been doing community theater, Broadway, Off-Broadway, commercials, Sitcoms and there's a lot of competition for that Crest commercial that pays scale and if he could just get that callback...
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There are guys at Azul who think ANYONE can get hired here. ANYONE. I mean ALL THE FO'S ARE LEAVING (they're not), and NOBODY IS SHOWING UP FOR CLASS (not true). When I tell captains what's on my resume, and how I applied for years before I got a call, they're shocked. They truly don't understand that it's still hard to get hired at any airline that isn't a regional.

My guess is that it'll never be easy to get hired at the big three and the middleweight three (Alaska, Southwest and JetBlue). Whether everyone accepts that or not is up to them.
 
jtrain609 said:
There are guys at Azul who think ANYONE can get hired here. ANYONE. I mean ALL THE FO'S ARE LEAVING (they're not), and NOBODY IS SHOWING UP FOR CLASS (not true). When I tell captains what's on my resume, and how I applied for years before I got a call, they're shocked. They truly don't understand that it's still hard to get hired at any airline that isn't a regional.

My guess is that it'll never be easy to get hired at the big three and the middleweight three (Alaska, Southwest and JetBlue). Whether everyone accepts that or not is up to them.
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Yea, I fly with guys that think all you have to do to get hired by the big 3 or the other three you named is apply.
 
jtrain609 said:
There are guys at Azul who think ANYONE can get hired here. ANYONE. I mean ALL THE FO'S ARE LEAVING (they're not), and NOBODY IS SHOWING UP FOR CLASS (not true). When I tell captains what's on my resume, and how I applied for years before I got a call, they're shocked. They truly don't understand that it's still hard to get hired at any airline that isn't a regional.

My guess is that it'll never be easy to get hired at the big three and the middleweight three (Alaska, Southwest and JetBlue). Whether everyone accepts that or not is up to them.
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No no... all our new hires have DWI's with multiple busts. I can smell the achohol from your post through my keyboard.
 
Gonzo said:
Yea, I fly with guys that think all you have to do to get hired by the big 3 or the other three you named is apply.
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To be fair, that's how I got into one of those 6. But I was an "acquired, not hired." I think getting hired at the new AS is going to be fairly challenging.

On a sidenote, I had one CA beotch about VX adopting AS new requirement of a college degree for newhire pilots. Shocker: he himself had no degree.

I heard back in the day (NW/Republic?) merger, there were guys proudly wearing "Hired, not acquired" stickers on their flight kits. I'd totally wear an "Acquired, not hired" sticker. Just to stick it to them :p
 
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