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[Cóndor]

You would be horrified at most of the 135 ops in FL.

Yup . . . one in FXE particularly comes to mind, not only for their MX practices but for the type of "cargo" they were carrying as well . . . eventually the owner got arrested and charged if I remember correctly . . . got what was coming to him I'd say.

May the crew of this Metro ship RIP.

 

[MikeD]

In my defense, dead reckoning across the Caribbean would be really lame.

I once DR'd across the entire Salton Sea.

 

[DPApilot]

I once DR'd across the entire Salton Sea.

Man, and if complain having to take this over the Caribbean....

 

[dustoff17]

I once DR'd across the entire Salton Sea.

I once GPS'ed across the Sahara in a Caravan!
Ok, it's not the same but it was still a really cool flight; I had no radio contact with anyone for about 4 1/2 hours!

 

[spbrian]

You mad?

In my defense, dead reckoning across the Caribbean would be really lame.

Hate it.....

 

[Beep]

Man, and if complain having to take this over the Caribbean....

Does all that stuff really work?

 

[Tommay85]

Hate it.....View attachment 26017

GAH! I've used it in the 99. Not a fan. Makes the Metro panel less chaotic looking too! Might punch it if one of those show up down here!

 

[Tommay85]

I once DR'd across the entire Salton Sea.

Yeah, but did you enjoy that???

 

[Deleted member 27505]

Hate it.....View attachment 26017

Ever tried using it in turbulence? That always makes me feel like I'm drunk and suffering vertigo.

 

[spbrian]

GAH! I've used it in the 99. Not a fan. Makes the Metro panel less chaotic looking too! Might punch it if one of those show up down here!

I only thought we were measuring sizes of screens!!!! I can live without it easily, give me a any of the old DHL airways birds over any radio set-up I have seen in a Metro with any GPS units available today.

 

[KLB]

I only thought we were measuring sizes of screens!!!! I can live without it easily, give me a any of the old DHL airways birds over any radio set-up I have seen in a Metro with any GPS units available today.

How about an AF bird with a FMS and all efis panels... but with a S-TEC autopilot with heading bug and altitude hold only though.

 

[ArcherII]

How about an AF bird with a FMS and all efis panels... but with a S-TEC autopilot with heading bug and altitude hold only though.

That's what I have actually, and is enough for me !

 

[born2aviate]

Derail much?

 

[mikecweb]

If they find out the company was cutting corners or being unsafe they need to put them out of business and charge the owners. Sick of some of these scumbag operations exploiting
pilots needs for turbine time. Provide a safe work environment.

If a PIC accepts an unsafe work environment because they "need turbine time" (whatever the heck that means) then that pilot should not be in the position they are in.
There's more to being a captain than logging the time in a different column.

 

[rockman2343@aol.com]

If a PIC accepts an unsafe work environment because they "need turbine time" (whatever the heck that means) then that pilot should not be in the position they are in.
There's more to being a captain than logging the time in a different column.

It means that some companies know they can find pilots to fly for them despite questionable operating practices and low wages, because they know we need turbine time to take that next step in our careers. Of course it's up to the PIC to say no, but not everyone will and some companies know this. The people who don't know are sitting in the back or in their houses when the plane comes crashing down on them.

 

[mikecweb]

It means that some companies know they can find pilots to fly for them despite questionable operating practices and low wages, because they know we need turbine time to take that next step in our careers. Of course it's up to the PIC to say no, but not everyone will and some companies know this. The people who don't know are sitting in the back or in their houses when the plane comes crashing down on them.

Then they have no business flying a 152 let alone a multi-engine turboprop as a captain.

 

[EIR]

It means that some companies know they can find pilots to fly for them despite questionable operating practices and low wages, because they know we need turbine time to take that next step in our careers. Of course it's up to the PIC to say no, but not everyone will and some companies know this. The people who don't know are sitting in the back or in their houses when the plane comes crashing down on them.

The pilot that accepts an unsafe work environment has no business in aviation. Let it be a PIC or SIC position.

 

[rockman2343@aol.com]

I'm not arguing that, you guys are right. I'm just saying the operators should be put out of business as well.

 

[ArcherII]

I've been in that very same position flying a SW3.

Over a period of time of about 6 months I found myself (PIC) in an engine-out situation, 7 more engine-related failures with no engine stop, Nº2 ITT unserviceable (would only work during start-up), Nº2 Torque lying everytime (and not a linear lie at that, fine in cruising, 500 lb.ft off during approach...only the turn coordinator would indicate a proper symmetrical thrust). ETC ETC

I resigned. I'm 28 and every cell of mine is keen on flying everyday. This is not flying and an insult to our profession. In fact, I accepted an offer to be ARO-AIS operator at my local airport, plus a non-flying position for an heli off-shore operation.

This means that I will not fly for an entire year, save for the odd CFI gig at my flying club. I'm happy.

 

[ChasenSFO]

Then they have no business flying a 152 let alone a multi-engine turboprop as a captain.

This is true, however, I have met more than one employee of a company described in such a way where the pilot was proud of themselves for doing such a "dangerous" job.