Most pilots I know are around 6ft, what's this pilot shortage bizness?
I don't care much for the redskinsRG3 You so funny. Sorry we beat you this Sunday.
Could be worse if they played RG1....RG3 You so funny. Sorry we beat you this Sunday.
Have you even been to a regional? I'm working under what some consider one of the worst contracts in the industry and I love the job. I'll make over $30k on first year pay, have half of the month off, fly an automated, easy to fly jet with overnights in the largest cities in the US. Most of the people hating life are the ones trying to commute on reserve.
To make a real reply....
It's very clear that you're a new-hire, with what you've mentioned about first year-pay. Please do something for me. Please bookmark this post, and come back in 24 months. Read it again, then. See what your mindset is, and how things have changed. Most of us were like you at one time. It doesn't last long.
Yes, I'm a new hire for the second time after a furlough. I only have the attitude I have because I spent more money training for a non aviation career than I did for flying and hated the grass on the other side, even considering I made more than RJ left seat pay. This job is all perspective, to each his own.
Have you even been to a regional? I'm working under what some consider one of the worst contracts in the industry and I love the job. I'll make over $30k on first year pay, have half of the month off, fly an automated, easy to fly jet with overnights in the largest cities in the US. Most of the people hating life are the ones trying to commute on reserve.
To the OP. I believe the requirement is to have an ATP. The requirements to obtain an ATP might be amended to something lower than 1500 hrs.
Yes, I'm a new hire for the second time after a furlough. I only have the attitude I have because I spent more money training for a non aviation career than I did for flying and hated the grass on the other side, even considering I made more than RJ left seat pay. This job is all perspective, to each his own.
Out of curiosity, what former career required more money spent on training than aviation? I wasn't aware there was one.
Out of curiosity, what former career required more money spent on training than aviation? I wasn't aware there was one.
Delta pilots didn't "cave." They got scope improvements. Reduction of the number of outsourced airplanes = good thing.
Wouldn't the fact that 50 seaters were going away anyway + the looming "shortage" from the ATP rule would have caused that reduction while keeping the scope in place for the larger airframes? Everything was in the favor for pilots as far as old 50-seat airframes and the fact that they are unsustainable in the current airline environment.
Likely because they are on Cal runs and 50 seat jets aren't being made anymore and aren't available. They will likely cost the company money to use which is a good thing for pilots as that wont be sustainable.And yet United has been bringing back 37 seaters from the desert for XJT to operate.
I like a sure thing, personally.
I know when you are fresh out of college 30k seams like a lot of money. I know I was pumped to make around that at my first job. Then again, my first job entailed sitting at a desk, looking at excel and the only decisions I was allowed to make was what I wanted for lunch. I didnt have a single person sitting behind me depending on my ability to perform, let alone multiple plane loads per day.
Unless you are doing charity work, no professional job that requires many hours of training and a college degree should require you to live in your parents basement, eating ramen to survive. A professional job should pay a livable wage from day 1. You're not an apprentice, you are being paid as a required crew member to perform a job.
Demand more of yourself and demand more of your employer. Also, never, NEVER say your job is easy. Saying so devalues you, it devalues the profession and it puts the idea in management head that they can pay even lower wages because even their own pilots say "this is easy". It may be easy day to day, but what about when the poo hits the fan? That is what you are really being paid for, not to push buttons on the routine days, but to get the plane there when the sky is full of thunderstorms or ice and the paying customers in the back are counting on you.
Respect is earned, not given. If you don't respect what you do, it will show and you will be treated as such.
Wouldn't the fact that 50 seaters were going away anyway
Law, medicine, dentistry, most PA programs. I'll spend about 3 times as much on a law degree as I did my flight training, and it unfortunately has to be completed MUCH quicker than I did my flight training.
Ah I see. I haven't seen many scholarships or federally subsidized student loans available for flight training though (if there were I'd probably be at Riddle). Unfortunately "pay as you go" or parent's with college funds aren't really realistic ways to pay for a degree anymore. My tuition was raised by 40% over the last two years alone, at a PUBLIC university. It's crazy.
Wow!When I started undergraduate in 2001, in state tuition for my public university was $120 an hour. By the time I graduated in 2005 it was up to $265. Now it's over $300.
My current tuition is $1,200 an hour. It's a 90 hour program, so the math is pretty easy. 10 years ago this program cost half as much.