Hot/ready reserve

saxman said:
Comair had 6 hour ready. Skw had 8. AA doesn’t but they just reassign us if we hit a hub. At least we now get premium for it.
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Yup, when you get 3+ hours sits in DFW/CLT, it’s essentially airport reserve, but like you said, I get reassigned about 2 trips a month and so far it ALWAYS works in my favor.
 
Southernjets has airport standby now as of the new contract. Completely voluntary, extra pay, and can go out as a premium trip as well.

That being said I think it’s only been offered for ATL 320 and 73, and only couple times during busier months.
 
podrick said:
Southernjets has airport standby now as of the new contract. Completely voluntary, extra pay, and can go out as a premium trip as well.

That being said I think it’s only been offered for ATL 320 and 73, and only couple times during busier months.
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Somehow I did not hear this previously. Makes sense if it is only an ATL thing I guess. Interesting
 
The Southernjets voluntary airport standby is a surprisingly good deal. It is up to a 6 hour window, and is used pretty low in the coverage process: after all regular pickups, reserves, and premium pickups. It is basically the last step before they reroute someone. If you get assigned a trip you have to be released as soon as you touch your base again or on the second calendar day, whichever occurs first. If you don't get used it pays a full day's guarantee (5h15') plus an additional 3h. Line holders will get the entire 8h15', reserves will have the 5h15' go towards their reserve guarantee for the month, but the 3h will be on top of guarantee. If you get a trip, it pays the value of the trip plus the additional 3h. Similarly the trip credit goes towards the monthly reserve guarantee for reserves but the 3h stays on top of guarantee. They can also be picked up as greenslips and all the usual greenslip additional pay applies.

They were offered a few times in my category so far this year, and basically went to area code seniority as a straight pickup.
 
CoffeeIcePapers said:
Endeavor had it. You could bid for it on your last day to try to gamble to get released early to commute home.
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OO would always stick it on your last day and never release you early. Your commute leaves 30 minutes before the end of your block? Every fleet has no flights left for the day within a 200 mile radius? Sorry, we might need you to do an engine run or something.
My understanding is this has been fixed, but god that was one of the biggest QOL killers when I was on reserve there.
 
JordanD said:
OO would always stick it on your last day and never release you early. Your commute leaves 30 minutes before the end of your block? Every fleet has no flights left for the day within a 200 mile radius? Sorry, we might need you to do an engine run or something.
My understanding is this has been fixed, but god that was one of the biggest QOL killers when I was on reserve there.
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Sounds on brand
 
luke3 said:
The Southernjets voluntary airport standby is a surprisingly good deal. It is up to a 6 hour window, and is used pretty low in the coverage process: after all regular pickups, reserves, and premium pickups. It is basically the last step before they reroute someone. If you get assigned a trip you have to be released as soon as you touch your base again or on the second calendar day, whichever occurs first. If you don't get used it pays a full day's guarantee (5h15') plus an additional 3h. Line holders will get the entire 8h15', reserves will have the 5h15' go towards their reserve guarantee for the month, but the 3h will be on top of guarantee. If you get a trip, it pays the value of the trip plus the additional 3h. Similarly the trip credit goes towards the monthly reserve guarantee for reserves but the 3h stays on top of guarantee. They can also be picked up as greenslips and all the usual greenslip additional pay applies.

They were offered a few times in my category so far this year, and basically went to area code seniority as a straight pickup.
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Doesn't sound like a bad deal at all for those who are local. And probably something that can be really tactically applied for folks who actually know what they are doing with bidding.
 
JordanD said:
Sorry, we might need you to do an engine run or something.
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an old, small regional used to exclusively use airport standby. hypothetical story- a group of pilots that never flew, and eventually after months of not touching an airplane would stop commuting in for their reserve blocks. every now and then someone would get called for an engine run, and their group text went out to see who was actually sitting in the crew room that could do it for them

I don’t think anyone ever actually got caught, in this theoretical scenario
 
bimmerphile said:
an old, small regional used to exclusively use airport standby. hypothetical story- a group of pilots that never flew, and eventually after months of not touching an airplane would stop commuting in for their reserve blocks. every now and then someone would get called for an engine run, and their group text went out to see who was actually sitting in the crew room that could do it for them

I don’t think anyone ever actually got caught, in this theoretical scenario
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"Sorry guys, I'm in Argentina"
 
bimmerphile said:
an old, small regional used to exclusively use airport standby. hypothetical story- a group of pilots that never flew, and eventually after months of not touching an airplane would stop commuting in for their reserve blocks. every now and then someone would get called for an engine run, and their group text went out to see who was actually sitting in the crew room that could do it for them

I don’t think anyone ever actually got caught, in this theoretical scenario
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JordanD said:
"Sorry guys, I'm in Argentina"
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"Now that we've taken care of the Chief Pilot's Office wanting to put your ass in a sling because you were on a beach in Lihue instead of sitting airport standby in Loudoun County, I'm strongly advising you to never do this again."
 
///AMG said:
Doesn't sound like a bad deal at all for those who are local. And probably something that can be really tactically applied for folks who actually know what they are doing with bidding.
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I sort of wish they'd had more VAS's in NYC for my category because short call necessarily implied coming in anyway, but I think I only ever saw one VAS in the 16ish months I was online in NYC.
 
DE727UPS said:
A lot of it depends on if you can sleep through the duty period. I was not a sleeper and just sat in my sleep room playing on the computer until 4am.
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I’d go stir crazy sitting HS. I’m always amazed at how senior it goes even in base. I can understand why DFW and other out of base HS went so senior. IDK if PHL still has HS but DFW HS went away in our bid pack.
Apparently weekend HS wasn’t a bad deal when it was slow last year. Sounds like most people got to stay at home and essentially do short call.
 
The DFW hot used to switch between ONT and SDF from time to time. But it could just as well be gone with the downsizing. Be surprised if PHL was gone but I've been out of the game for three years. You have to be exceptionally good at being lazy to not go stir crazy doing hots. That's me.
 
You PSAers with your fancy ready reserve rooms!

I would bet a lot of money no one, except for me, had the 'pleasure' of sitting 8 hours of Ready Reserve in the passenger terminal in HPN spring of 2007. Doing the Colgan 2007!
 
Still have the scars of endless hours of ready in ORD & DEN. Missed commutes, 435 area code frustrations voiced & life wasted. I eventually figured out the deepest, darkest corners of both airports to hide that weren't the crew lounges. Once I finally got based back home in DEN, my ready reserve periods may or may have not progressively ended further from the airport eventually ending up on my mountain bike as ready expired. Allegedly.
 
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