Help! Student pilot concerned about future in aviation

rockman2343@aol.com said:
You're right. I meant perfect-ish.
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Nah, I know guys hired in 2007 who didn't have a degree and a DUI in their past at a legacy.

Also, threads like these are EXTREMELY dangerous. Yes, not going to Canada is an issue, but a bigger issue now is the fact that while his attorney told him to not blow, the FAA views that as a positive and you were drunk driving. The poster needs to call these folks first thing Monday morning...

https://www.aviationmedicine.com/

Then he needs to sprint to an aviation attorney ask the AMAS folks if they can recommend someone that can work with him and this and any criminal charges.
 
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Seggy said:
Nah, I know guys hired in 2007 who didn't have a degree and a DUI in their past at a legacy.

Also, threads like these are EXTREMELY dangerous. Yes, not going to Canada is an issue, but a bigger issue now is the fact that while his attorney told him to not blow, the FAA views that as a positive and you were drunk driving. The poster needs to call these folks first thing Monday morning...

https://www.aviationmedicine.com/

Then he needs to sprint to an aviation attorney ask the AMAS folks if they can recommend someone that can work with him and this and any criminal charges.
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What I'm trying to say is, once that is all done, initially he'll need to let some time pass. Once 3 or 4 years pass, with no further legal infractions and a solid work history, it's less likely to be the DUI itself that stops companies from hiring him, but his inability to enter Canada. This is true for most 135 charter and regionals. And prior to 2008, the Canada thing was not a big deal as it was not as strictly enforced.
You are right, he should contact those folks.
 
Seggy said:
Nah, I know guys hired in 2007 who didn't have a degree and a DUI in their past at a legacy.

Also, threads like these are EXTREMELY dangerous. Yes, not going to Canada is an issue, but a bigger issue now is the fact that while his attorney told him to not blow, the FAA views that as a positive and you were drunk driving. The poster needs to call these folks first thing Monday morning...

https://www.aviationmedicine.com/

Then he needs to sprint to an aviation attorney ask the AMAS folks if they can recommend someone that can work with him and this and any criminal charges.
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Is this from personal experience? If not, I think you're giving bad advice. As in he hasn't been convicted of a crime and yet you want him to pursue a course of action as though he's already guilty. All that website is going to do is bilk him out of $49 and then tell him to find someone local.
 
BajtheJino said:
Is this from personal experience? If not, I think you're giving bad advice. As in he hasn't been convicted of a crime and yet you want him to pursue a course of action as though he's already guilty. All that website is going to do is bilk him out of $49 and then tell him to find someone local.
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I've worked with the folks at AMAS for a while now as an ALPA Volunteer. They are great people there.

No clue why you think the advice is bad, unless you want to make it personal against me instead of trying to help this guy out. If you refuse a breathalyer you are guilty in the eyes of the FAA. That's the problem for this poster here. The folks at AMAS can walk someone through that process of a refused test with some AME who is familiar with it.

Well worth the money.
 
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Aspiring Pilot hopefully said:
My question is, after the suspension of my license then dismissal of charges following after, then the expungment of said arrest, will this still impact my flying? I'm only 18 and I know how irresponsible of me it was to be drinking, which I am swearing off because it simply isn't worth it. All I want to do is fly. What should I do?
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Guys I think some of you are getting carried away with this....maybe the original poster could clarify but the way I read this is AFTER the dismissal of charges & expungement of his record what should he do....the answer I believe everyone would agree is nothing! If the record is expunged and the charges are dismissed you have no issues. People are charged with crimes all the time but it's a conviction that's a problem this person doesn't have a conviction so life is good.

If I'm miss reading the original post al bests are off but that's what I take away from his post.
 
As others have said; consult with an attorney. And do not ever, ever post on this subject, here, or anywhere else. Ever. Keep your legal matters between yourself and your attorney.

That said, I want to comment on this part of your post:

Aspiring Pilot hopefully said:
I absolutely love flying and can't imagine doing anything else with my life.
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Like you, I couldn't think of anything besides a career in aviation. All that means is that I had no imagination. Being young, I couldn't conceive of what else was out there that might possibly hold my interest and make me happy. Well, it turns out that there are great many areas that have nothing to do with aviation that I find fascinating, and can see myself making a career in

I promise you, there are other things out there that will hold your interest. Don't be afraid to explore them. College is the perfect time to do that. The worse that happens is that you find out that aviation is where you're supposed to be. The best is that you discover an entirely new thing you weren't even aware existed.
 
Request said:
Guys I think some of you are getting carried away with this....maybe the original poster could clarify but the way I read this is AFTER the dismissal of charges & expungement of his record what should he do....the answer I believe everyone would agree is nothing! If the record is expunged and the charges are dismissed you have no issues. People are charged with crimes all the time but it's a conviction that's a problem this person doesn't have a conviction so life is good.

If I'm miss reading the original post al bests are off but that's what I take away from his post.
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Actually these days just a DUI arrest triggers an FAA review, regardless of final disposition of the case in court.
 
Tiptank said:
It's amazing how such a highly intelligent community of professionals will fall victim to a simple internet troll. It is good for entertainment value though. I guess.
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Its not me :0

I don't know why all of these DUI threads are coming out of the woodwork just now.

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Request said:
Guys I think some of you are getting carried away with this....
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Nope, definitely not getting carried away.

maybe the original poster could clarify but the way I read this is AFTER the dismissal of charges & expungement of his record what should he do....the answer I believe everyone would agree is nothing! If the record is expunged and the charges are dismissed you have no issues. People are charged with crimes all the time but it's a conviction that's a problem this person doesn't have a conviction so life is good.

If I'm miss reading the original post al bests are off but that's what I take away from his post.
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Once again, the fact that he refused a breathalyzer is viewed as you have been driving drunk by the FAA. The poster needs to make sure they follow the correct protocol or else he can really, really, really hurt themselves and dig a hole. Also, just because it is expunged doesn't mean it goes away. My sim partner (a new hire) in transition was falsely arrested a couple of years ago. Even though it was expunged he marked it down on his application. It didn't hurt him getting hired.

The original poster shouldn't have any problem in this career even with this to get past. They just need to make sure the proper steps are followed here.
 
My wife is a captain for Southwest Airlines which affords us free travel and plenty of time to work on our second homebuilt aircraft. I met her when we were flying a search in Southern Idaho and we share our love of flying. I advise my pilot buddies to include their wives in all aspects of their flying activities.
 
David Soom said:
My wife is a captain for Southwest Airlines which affords us free travel and plenty of time to work on our second homebuilt aircraft. I met her when we were flying a search in Southern Idaho and we share our love of flying. I advise my pilot buddies to include their wives in all aspects of their flying activities.
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Cool story, and I don't disagree with you, but how is this relevant to this discussion?
 
NickH said:
I think you mean 'Quiet Drinking', which is always a preferred method. Many people drink loudly or become loud after drinking.
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May be the filtered water with lemon where I live or maybe its the dystopian Netflix features that I watch, but I think he meant to say: 'Quit' drinking.

NickH said:
This is what is referred to as a 'Drinking Problem'.
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I call this a behavior.
 
1. You need to lawyer up.
2. An arrest and a conviction are very different things.
3. If this wasn't your 'friend' and was indeed you then be honest in interviews, this industry is unkind to liars. I hope you really were in the back seat.
4. A legit DUI is not the end of a aviation career but will make it much harder, Major airlines in particular.
5. Drunk Drivers kill many people. Don't do it.
 
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