WalterSobchak
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Of course the FAA will say changes aren't necessary because who would have to admit flaw in the current system?
It also sets up the curious point a lot of pilots in the crewroom have asked... If the ATA and everyone in the industry head to toe says regionals are just as safe as majors, why would the language target mostly regionals?Of course the FAA will say changes aren't necessary because who would have to admit flaw in the current system?
Just not realistic. In a couple years there would be absolutely NO qualifed pilots with that rule. None, zip, nada.
It is a lot easier to argue for higher wages when everyone has a certain minimum experience set (with only hours as the metric I realize).
You guys are missing it. He's saying that CONGRESSIONAL mandates are not necessary. He doesn't want the FAA's hands tied to political pandering. After all, it was congressional mandates that gave us the TSA, and we've seen how that has worked out.
[YT]V3y3QoFnqZc[/YT]Man i just read this after posting in the 1500 thread. Like i said before, the idea of that rule passing is COMICAL. There's no way in hell it will pass with or without Mr. Babbit's blessing. We are MUCH closer to ab intio than some silly 1500 rule for FOs.
Just not realistic. In a couple years there would be absolutely NO qualifed pilots with that rule. None, zip, nada.
No he is against the 1500 hr requirement period.You guys are missing it. He's saying that CONGRESSIONAL mandates are not necessary. He doesn't want the FAA's hands tied to political pandering. After all, it was congressional mandates that gave us the TSA, and we've seen how that has worked out.
There's no leverage gained from a high(er) time person from a bargaining perspective, in my opinion.
Please stop confusing requiring a higher level of qualification for an airliner cockpit with bargaining.
One does not necessarily relate to another. Otherwise, at companies like mine (I was the low timer at 6k as a FNG), we'd all be making mint.
Your compensation and work rules are merely based on what you can negotiate. Flying skills in the cockpit don't necessarily make great management skills (You can google all of the super-successful professional pilots cum CEOs at the majors to prove this).
The ability to negotiate vs. the ability to do a V1 cut are not directly related.
I know just what you mean, but I don't really care if Randy Babbitt thinks congressional mandates are not necessary.
At what point in the past did the FAA change the rules regarding rest and qualifications for the better?
They cannot be trusted. I can't simply assume that Randy Babbitt will be any different from his predecessors and so I'd rather have congress force something on them as long as it is reasonable. This, so far, looks reasonable.
Do you listen to rage against the machine while in uniform?I only want to establish a base pay rate...
What incentive does management really have paying a guy with 250 hours $40,000 for his year one work when there are "10 other 250 hour wonders" in the wings waiting to take his place.
And yes, if I want to make money, go into sales. I didn't get into my career to become rich, I got into it to make a decent middle class living. My dad has been working since the 80s and his take home after taxes is a few dollars shy of $100,000..... I would be happy with that, but if I can get more, I'd like that too.
Do you listen to rage against the machine while in uniform?
Anyway, as far as being rich, you don't have to make a lot to have a lot.
Ohh, jeesh man, I'm sorry. Wasn't looking to smash anyone. I guess I just think its funny when guys in white collars have punk and anti-authority band logo's on their flight cases and stuff. (like hippies turned CEO's) I hope you don't take offense. It'd be like when I have a "I have SJS" on my flight case and walk into my turboprop. I wasn't trying to play Velo.No, but if I did, I'd do it in the crew room out of view of the public.
I don't have a backpack, my hair is cropped and untouched by styling gel, and I never wear earbuds with any sort of entertainment device like an iPod when I'm in view of the public. Not only does it look weird, but its also against the company uniform policy set forth in our FOM.
Curious as to what you mean by this line. I just said I'd like to be able to make $100,000 so I could afford the things one should be able to afford at that pay rate. I'm not looking for a Bugatti or a 16,000 sq. foot house.
What incentive does management really have paying a guy with 250 hours $40,000 for his year one work when there are "10 other 250 hour wonders" in the wings waiting to take his place.
cencal83496 in 2015 said:What incentive does management really have paying a guy with 1500 hours $40,000 for his year one work when there are "10 other guys with 1500" in the wings waiting to take his place.
Well, it's a good thing I'm not a negotiator lol. I definitely think that low timers are worth the $40,000 starting.... like my friend out of college, I don't think any entry level job in a professional industry should pay less than that.They don't have incentive.
Let's postulate what that phrase will say should what ever requirements are set. We'll even use the 1500 hour requirement.
I'm not singling you out, but this seems to be the myopic view of most posters on here.
Thus history has shown time and time again that there will not be a shortage of qualified pilots, unless there is a paradigm shift in the industry (the jet age and the RJs).
Best work on negotiation skills in primary training too....
Carry on...:beer: