Hanging out with the FAs

[Hiboglossi]

Nopiddy nope!

Two reasons:

1. Plausible deniability. “I wasn’t there, what happened? I have no idea!”

1a. Given a VERY notorious case at my shop that involves an overnight layover, no thank you.

1b. From being FO the couple times we went out as crew, I saw quite a few FAs expected and/or thought the pilots (esp the CA) would pay the bill. Other times though rare, felt like some of them were fishing to snag you as a BF. I had one literally say to my face that a rung was just an obstacle to overcome. No thank you.

1c. Going back to 1a, while it may sound paranoid, I just don’t want any accusation(s) that could jeopardize my career.

Admittedly, I have heard compelling (although general rather than airline industry-specific) arguments that it is imprudent to socialize with coworkers outside of work.

But I do find it weird that there's this fixation with false accusations (of sexual assault/harrassment, I'm assuming) when it comes to hanging out with F/As specifically. Do you avoid hanging out with other pilots as well for this reason? Nowadays there are plenty of male FAs as well as a good number of female pilots so it seems like this could be an issue with pilots as well, to say nothing of same-sex sexual harassment accusations. Honestly, if you're worried about hanging out with FAs, it seems like you should also be worried about being paired with an opposite-gender FO since you'll be locked in the flight deck with them...

Especially in the case of that APC poster I quoted who avoids being in elevators with women or sitting next to women on public transit- surely sharing a flight deck with a woman FO would be a much greater concern, but honestly if you're that worried you might as well never leave home.

2. If I just spent 6-8 hrs locked in a tube with you over a 10-12 hr duty day, the last thing I’m gonna want to do is see you again once we’re off the plane. And I mean no offense.

That's pretty understandable, I have to admit.

 

[Roger Roger]

Do you grab a beer with your handyman and your security contractor after a long day of “fixing” leaky plumbing and evicting deadbeats?

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

Do you grab a beer with your handyman and your security contractor after a long day of “fixing” leaky plumbing and evicting deadbeats?

I hang out with other people in the industry all the time, including vendors, yes.

 

[Roger Roger]

I hang out with other people in the industry all the time, including vendors, yes.

Great. Go find a message board to post about that then.

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

Great. Go find a message board to post about that then.

Nah, I’ll stay right here, thanks. You’re welcome to use the ignore feature, though.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Great. Go find a message board to post about that then.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Nah, I’ll stay right here, thanks. You’re welcome to use the ignore feature, though.

We’re hiring, if you want back in. You seem to miss it.

 

[Roger Roger]

Nah, I’ll stay right here, thanks. You’re welcome to use the ignore feature, though.

It’s more funny to watch you desperately try to stay relevant to aviation.

 

[SlumTodd_Millionaire]

It’s more funny to watch you desperately try to stay relevant to aviation.

Angry non-union Skypest pilot? Poor baby.

 

[ppragman]

You damned right! BEST THING EVAR!

”Hey man, i didn’t see you at happy hour”

”Yeah, I went and did black guy stuff instead. Sorry (not sorry)”

I wish I had this power.

 

[Stone Cold]

Flight attendants...what are those??

FREIGHT IS GREAT!!!!!!

 

[derg]

I wish I had this power.

I added you to the master list. You can use this now!

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Flight attendants...what are those??

FREIGHT IS GREAT!!!!!!

Times we summoned the Puke Patrol this week: 3
Days in pairing: 3

 

[ppragman]

I added you to the master list. You can use this now!

*Leaves to go do blackguy stuff without saying a word*

 

[ASpilot2be]

Back on the SAAB, we would usually hang out as a crew. We were for the most part all good friends. But not anymore. As was previously mentioned we're at different hotels, and I enjoy my alone time. Hell I rarely hang out with the Captain.

 

[derg]

*Leaves to go do blackguy stuff without saying a word*

Fun, ain’t it? The primary rule is that you’re never to explain exactly what “Black Guy Stuff” is to anyone.

 

[AAPalmTree]

"I'mma go do black guy stuff."

I pray I’m in the back of an elevator someday when he says this to his FO (or even better a crusty old WB CA). Priceless.

 

[ppragman]

Fun, ain’t it? The primary rule is that you’re never to explain exactly what “Black Guy Stuff” is to anyone.

Holy •, this is amazing, have you guys always had tacos here?

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Such a tease.... STORY TIME!!

Alleged rape. It's been in the news and multiple lawsuits from both parties. That's all I can really say about that.

 

[mikecweb]

Nopiddy nope!

Two reasons:

1. Plausible deniability. “I wasn’t there, what happened? I have no idea!”

1a. Given a VERY notorious case at my shop that involves an overnight layover, no thank you.

1b. From being FO the couple times we went out as crew, I saw quite a few FAs expected and/or thought the pilots (esp the CA) would pay the bill. Other times though rare, felt like some of them were fishing to snag you as a BF. I had one literally say to my face that a rung was just an obstacle to overcome. No thank you.

1c. Going back to 1a, while it may sound paranoid, I just don’t want any accusation(s) that could jeopardize my career.

and

2. If I just spent 6-8 hrs locked in a tube with you over a 10-12 hr duty day, the last thing I’m gonna want to do is see you again once we’re off the plane. And I mean no offense.



I’m not a slam clicker. I’ll still go do stuff. It just won’t be with the other crew. I do my own things.

No one wants to goto Sbarros anyways so you’re not really the one turning them down and you sit down to pee at home so I don’t think you have to worry about 1b.