JaceTheAce
Well-Known Member
I love you Kathryn!!!
I believe FAs do receive training for ditching, but I could be wrong.
While Ms. Keene's feelings are understandable following such an admirable performance by a flight crew, they are emotions misplaced if she thinks appealing to the public will have any impact on the circumstances under which airline crews are employed or work.
Why ? Because your pay and/or working conditions are YOUR problem, not the public's. They couldn't possibly care less nor can I think of any reason why they should. What would one expect the public to do on your behalf...boycott the offending airline ? That'll be the day...
In fact, I think pilots look lame appealing to people who just don't care.
YOUR fight isn't THEIR fight. You are the one who needs to do what you consider necessary to improve your own circumstances. Quit, strike or any point on the spectrum between the two.
I walked the picket line with the EAL guys as their company circled the drain; we were INVISIBLE to the people who walked past on their way into the terminal.
Nothing has changed since then.
While Ms. Keene's feelings are understandable following such an admirable performance by a flight crew, they are emotions misplaced if she thinks appealing to the public will have any impact on the circumstances under which airline crews are employed or work.
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I tend to agree. Appealing to the public is a useless endeavor. Picketing is more of an exercise in building pilot group unity. Only when the word "strike" is starting to get thrown around on the news close to an NMB release do passengers start to avoid that airline and hurt the company's bottom line. Until then, any appeals to the public fall on deaf ears.
While Ms. Keene's feelings are understandable following such an admirable performance by a flight crew, they are emotions misplaced if she thinks appealing to the public will have any impact on the circumstances under which airline crews are employed or work.
Why ? Because your pay and/or working conditions are YOUR problem, not the public's. They couldn't possibly care less nor can I think of any reason why they should. What would one expect the public to do on your behalf...boycott the offending airline ? That'll be the day...
In fact, I think pilots look lame appealing to people who just don't care.
YOUR fight isn't THEIR fight. You are the one who needs to do what you consider necessary to improve your own circumstances. Quit, strike or any point on the spectrum between the two.
I walked the picket line with the EAL guys as their company circled the drain; we were INVISIBLE to the people who walked past on their way into the terminal.
Nothing has changed since then.
Why? Example: Pilots want to strive for more. They strike. The public understands this. A politician gets involved. Sufficient public sympathy will influence how a politician responds to the issue.
I sincerely doubt that the public understands why pilots strike. In their mind we all make 6 figures and work 10-15 days/month. Even a second year regional F/O makes the same if not more than the average American wage earner.
Now, if a certain pilot group was considerably underpaid and as such attracted unqualified or subpar pilots, THEN the public would care. The thing is, I don't think there is any 121 airline that had multiple crashes due to pilot error and is still around today. Even Skybus, who everyone hated due to their ridiculous pay scale, had zero accidents in the year they were flying.
I was hoping to read feedback today in regards to my supposed misperception of low priced airlines since I havent purchased in a whole three months. Seg? Dug? Care to elaborate how I have been duped by 'marketing savvy'? Examples? I would enjoy saving a buck or two just like any other 'bunghole'.
They are not always the cheapest in the markets they serve. You think they are because of how their marketing strategy works.
www.iflyswa.com
See the crap they have on the main page. 'Low Fares' blah blah blah
People associate Southwest and low fares because of marketing.
I believe FAs do receive training for ditching, but I could be wrong.
I was hoping to read feedback today in regards to my supposed misperception of low priced airlines since I havent purchased in a whole three months. Seg? Dug? Care to elaborate how I have been duped by 'marketing savvy'? Examples? I would enjoy saving a buck or two just like any other 'bunghole'.
Thoughts related to the original post....
I find it very naive that the perception of paying more for goods and services relates to greater employee pay/benefits (including pensions). This battle is fought and won/loss at the labor/management table, not consumer habits as the original editorial excerpt alludes to.
www.iflyswa.com
See the crap they have on the main page. 'Low Fares' blah blah blah
People associate Southwest and low fares because of marketing.