good idea to fly with 777 captain?

Don't get me wrong guys. I love Jetcareers and I appreciate all the input. But this is what I see as "my" path to the airlines. I don't want to CFI, if I had to I would, but it's not for me. Aside from the $, what's the problem? And even better, how bout some suggestions on what to do in leu of the Airline Direct Track, not involving CFIing.

OK...you've made up your mind.

Take your uncle up in the cheapest single you can find.
 
Wow. Really, I'm putting everything I have into this and you guys are just dumping all over me. I know it's expensive, and I'm busting my ass. I'm lucky enough to have parents that will help with my student loans. Oh wait now i've got daddy's money. You all sound like a bunch of haters. To all of you throwing out genuine advise, thanks.
Sorry brother but paying 17k to fly a ERJ simulator to get hired at an airline that flys CRJs and GASP turboprops isn't busting your ass. 250 hours of training isn't busting your ass. This is ridiculous.
 
Sorry brother but paying 17k to fly a ERJ simulator to get hired at an airline that flys CRJs and GASP turboprops isn't busting your ass. 250 hours of training isn't busting your ass. This is ridiculous.


Have to say I couldn't agree more. :panic:

Nuff said.
 
I asked myself the very same thing. I originally wanted to CFI. But the cost for the ratings is exactly the same. Not to mention you have to chug through three more ratings. Not to mention rent etc. all while not getting paid. THEN giving another year or so back to the school to teach kids 8's and shortfields in the Cadet. Riiight. I'll take the RJ thank you.

Hmm... So you think it takes $17k to get your CFI/CFII/MEI? I'd say it's about 1/3 that, at the most (including paying for your 15 hrs PIC multi time).

As far as your condescending comment about instructing, I'll just chalk that up to ignorance. I've got about 400 hrs dual given, and it's made me a much better pilot in every sense.
 
Have to say I couldn't agree more. :panic:

Nuff said.

Coming from a dude with 10 hours, i agree also.

Would you pay a company to train you so you can get on with target? No? Then why an airline? It seems like all common sense is out the window once it comes to airlines. You wouldnt do something like this at ANY other job...but with airlines it's acceptable.
 
Hmm... So you think it takes $17k to get your CFI/CFII/MEI? I'd say it's about 1/3 that, at the most (including paying for your 15 hrs PIC multi time).

As far as your condescending comment about instructing, I'll just chalk that up to ignorance. I've got about 400 hrs dual given, and it's made me a much better pilot in every sense.
I meant no offense, Sorry you took it that way. If you came to FSA you'd understand. And FYI single engine commercial add is around 9k. CFII is 3.5k. and MEI is like 3.5k. total: around 16k
 
I meant no offense, Sorry you took it that way. If you came to FSA you'd understand. And FYI single engine commercial add is around 9k. CFII is 3.5k. and MEI is like 3.5k. total: around 16k

WHAT??????????????????????????????????

That's jibberish...do they train you in Kingairs???
 
Don't get me wrong guys. I love Jetcareers and I appreciate all the input. But this is what I see as "my" path to the airlines. I don't want to CFI, if I had to I would, but it's not for me. Aside from the $, what's the problem? And even better, how bout some suggestions on what to do in leu of the Airline Direct Track, not involving CFIing.
The problem is that this is a very, very volatile and unstable industry and having a backup or plan b,c, etc is very important.
You know, given the number of people taking RJ courses, I wouldn't be surprised that Regionals use it as a minimum hiring requirement, or even go all the way to require ERJ/CRJ type ratings PRIOR to being hired! One more victory for management!
And no hatred or anything man, just want you to save $17K !!! :)
 
I meant no offense, Sorry you took it that way. If you came to FSA you'd understand. And FYI single engine commercial add is around 9k. CFII is 3.5k. and MEI is like 3.5k. total: around 16k

So don't do it at FSA. Get in your car, get on I-95 south, drive down here to KLNA, and we'll do it for 1/3 the cost. Pretty simple.
 
I meant no offense, Sorry you took it that way. If you came to FSA you'd understand. And FYI single engine commercial add is around 9k. CFII is 3.5k. and MEI is like 3.5k. total: around 16k

Alright, I said I'd stay out of this... I can't.

That may be the case at FSI but you can go elsewhere and get those ratings at half the cost or even less. Also, getting the ratings elsewhere will limit the amount of inbreeding you are getting in your training (FSI CFIs teaching FSI CFIs who teach the next "generation" the same thing).

You don't want to instruct... fair enough. I personally think somebody who doesn't instruct is no where near the pilot a CFI is, but it really is not for everybody.

That said, going through the RJ course isn't going to teach you anything that you won't learn once you actually get hired. If you feel like you won't make it through the airline ground school with out getting the RJ prep course then airline flying probably isn't for you.
 
Alright, I said I'd stay out of this... I can't.

That may be the case at FSI but you can go elsewhere and get those ratings at half the cost or even less. Also, getting the ratings elsewhere will limit the amount of inbreeding you are getting in your training (FSI CFIs teaching FSI CFIs who teach the next "generation" the same thing).

You don't want to instruct... fair enough. I personally think somebody who doesn't instruct is no where near the pilot a CFI is, but it really is not for everybody.

That said, going through the RJ course isn't going to teach you anything that you won't learn once you actually get hired. If you feel like you won't make it through the airline ground school with out getting the RJ prep course then airline flying probably isn't for you.
Go to bed Ethan . . . he's not listening:confused: besides, what would we know about any of this:yup:
 
I'm out sick from work.

Magically I am feeling much better then I was when I called off this morning.

But I probably should go to sleep.
 
I am out sick as well . . . drinking OJ and will go back to sleep soon. Hope to see you sometime soon!

Hey kid . . .lemmee take your uncle flying:)
 
...c'mon guys, lets take the emotion out of all of this. Hacker15's and Bumblebee's post have both been the best in this thread.

The guy comes on here asking for help, and we as a forum of aviators collectively jumps down his throat.

This is an educational site, and we are using more emotion in this thread and trying to educate him by way of a blunt 2x4.

Not cool in my opinion.

We might abhor programs such as this but we as a site need to find a more kinder and gentler medium in which to educate, and not bash.

Furthermore, some people will want to do things there way no matter what, so sometimes it's far better to live and let live. Its his money, he can do what he wants.

But you can at least rest better having told him that there are other options.

We can do better as a site, people, this thread is almost FI-ish in replies.

Lets educate, and not retaliate.
 
Hey why don't you just settle down Max!!!!:buck:

(here's a guy who could use some accelleratin':p)


you're right though . . . I felt like this when I got to the end of the thread the first time:panic::panic::panic::crazy:
 
Max has a good point, here.

As pilots, we generally tend to be very Type-A personalities, and thus often our message is mis-read as being aggressive or critical.

Intern_Mike, you are a member of the same club as we all are -- professional pilots -- and we are not trying to criticize you, your desires, or the choices you've made.

As a fellow member of the club, though, we are all trying to help you avoid making the same mistakes we've made or we've seen others make.

Please take our comments in the spirit in which they are intended: to help you be the best professional pilot you can be, as well as making smart financial decisions (as that is a part of the professional pilot life that goes hand-in-hand with every other decision we make).
 
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