GoJet... Yay or nay?

DE727UPS said:
I just rode with them as a pax, both in 1A and on the van. They seemed like any other regional crew. F/A's were polite and professional. Pilots didn't complain about anything, even after having to stay at the Galt House.
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What's wrong with the Galt House? I've never had a bad experience and it's in a great location.
 
Our nicer hotels are Marriotts and Hiltons. Your typical business hotels where legacy airline pilots usually stay. Our worst hotels are Galt House in SDF and Holiday Inn express in Fresno. You think Delta or FedEx stays at the Galt House? More like the Marriott, Seelbach, or the Brown, I'd bet. It's a minor thing, in the overall scheme of things, but ONT guys spend a lot of time in SDF and the Galt House is a common complaint.
 
I’d agree with the AA WO or Endeavor comments above. Check out the Piedmont Cadet Program, I had a couple guys in my indoc class that went through the program.
 
I'm sure all airlines have something that someone is not happy about. GoJet has its devils just like any other airline.

Here is what I would say.

Look into it.

Get past the intro classes in the headquarters and get them to let you talk to the pilots that are going through (or have gone through Flight Safety). Ask how many started and how many completed the training. Ask them how the training went. Ask if it made a difference if you had a GoJet instructor or a Flight Safety instructor.

Then make your decision based on what you learn and not what others tell you that have not been there.
 
PenguinAviator said:
The Capt that came down didn't sugar coat the reputation of GoJet but has assured me that the individuals responsible for the cancerous culture have been pushed out and the company is moving on. So, illustrious and wise members of JC, advice please? Take it or leave it?
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JOEFRIDAY2 said:
Then make your decision based on what you learn and not what others tell you that have not been there.
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Watching another guy (2nd now in two years) I know go to GoJets against my advice, still there now trying to leave as fast as he can, i disagree.

To the OP @PenguinAviator , you don't have to make all the mistakes yourself. Learn from others. If you choose to work for GoJets, just remember, you can leave. Avoid sunken cost fallacy.
 
I’m not sure with all of the options available to you why you would chose GoJet right now... I personally don’t even consider them competitive with what other regionals are offering new hires. Both in terms of pay AND career progression.

If you think you would like to fly for American Airlines one day, go to:
*Envoy
*Piedmont
*PSA
...They all have their variances but in the end they are all pretty similar in some ways. I’m at PSA. We have a schedule adjustment tool that is unrivaled in the industry and provides our pilots with excellent quality of life. Our flow agreement with American is not as good (we don’t send as many pilots to AA) but that is likely going to change very soon and it will be on par with the other 2 WOs. Envoy has 175s and Piedmont has the best / quickest flow and a Philadelphia base. All 3 offer siazable new hire bonuses and a $10,000 /year retention bonus to FOs if they decide not to upgrade years 2 and 3.

If you think you would like to fly for Delta Airlines go fly for:
*Endeavor
...Endeavor has hands down the absolute best compensation package in the regional industry right now and if money is your #1 top priority look no further. They also have a guaranteed interview program with Delta and aside from the military they send the most pilots to Delta.

If you think you want to fly for United go fly for:
*CommutAir
*Air Wisconsin
...Both have interview programs set up with United and offer good compensation packages. Air Wisconsin also has a lot of excellent contractual stuff that other regionals don’t. I would include ExpressJet in this because I think they will also have a future with United but their future still seems to be in flux a bit.

If you ABSOLUTELY have to live on the West Coast go fly for:
*SkyWest
...Not exactly my first choice and they certainly don’t pay the best but they are a solid company that does a ton of flying for all 3 legacy airlines. It’s a safe bet that they will continue to maintain those legacy partnerships while other airlines go through troubled times. But again, not exactly my first choice.

If you’re enamored with the idea of flying an E-175, go fly for:
*Republic
...Not my first choice but the pay is good and they do have some decent base options. They also fly for all 3 legacies and will likely continue to do so.

Regionals I would avoid:
*Mesa
*GoJet
*Transtates
*Compass
*Great Lakes (are they even a thing anymore?)
*Silver Airways
...I think the next few years we will see more consolidation in the regional industry as the regional pilot shortage deepens. American and Delta have both not been shy about stating that they wish to reduce the number of contract carriers flying for them. American currently has 10 (I think?) regionals doing their branded American Eagle flying. Unofficially I’ve heard that they want to reduce this number down to around 6. Delta has stayed that they are going to continue to grow and pump money into Endeavor and continue to bring even more of the Delta regional flying “in house”. And United has been a little bit slower in adopting the methods that both AA and Delta are utilizing but I think we’re starting to see UA change some of that by investing in CommutAir, Air Wisconsin, and ExpressJet. I think the future of the American airline industry as a whole is going to be pathway programs to the legacy and major carriers and we are already seeing the beginning of that with the legacies and to some extent JetBlue. Buyer beware if you are thinking of making a move to a regional that is a contract carrier and is not vested in by their legacy partner.
 
chrisreedrules said:
I’m not sure with all of the options available to you why you would chose GoJet right now... I personally don’t even consider them competitive with what other regionals are offering new hires. Both in terms of pay AND career progression.

If you think you would like to fly for American Airlines one day, go to:
*Envoy
*Piedmont
*PSA
...They all have their variances but in the end they are all pretty similar in some ways. I’m at PSA. We have a schedule adjustment tool that is unrivaled in the industry and provides our pilots with excellent quality of life. Our flow agreement with American is not as good (we don’t send as many pilots to AA) but that is likely going to change very soon and it will be on par with the other 2 WOs. Envoy has 175s and Piedmont has the best / quickest flow and a Philadelphia base. All 3 offer siazable new hire bonuses and a $10,000 /year retention bonus to FOs if they decide not to upgrade years 2 and 3.

If you think you would like to fly for Delta Airlines go fly for:
*Endeavor
...Endeavor has hands down the absolute best compensation package in the regional industry right now and if money is your #1 top priority look no further. They also have a guaranteed interview program with Delta and aside from the military they send the most pilots to Delta.

If you think you want to fly for United go fly for:
*CommutAir
*Air Wisconsin
...Both have interview programs set up with United and offer good compensation packages. Air Wisconsin also has a lot of excellent contractual stuff that other regionals don’t. I would include ExpressJet in this because I think they will also have a future with United but their future still seems to be in flux a bit.

If you ABSOLUTELY have to live on the West Coast go fly for:
*SkyWest
...Not exactly my first choice and they certainly don’t pay the best but they are a solid company that does a ton of flying for all 3 legacy airlines. It’s a safe bet that they will continue to maintain those legacy partnerships while other airlines go through troubled times. But again, not exactly my first choice.

If you’re enamored with the idea of flying an E-175, go fly for:
*Republic
...Not my first choice but the pay is good and they do have some decent base options. They also fly for all 3 legacies and will likely continue to do so.

Regionals I would avoid:
*Mesa
*GoJet
*Transtates
*Compass
*Great Lakes (are they even a thing anymore?)
*Silver Airways
...I think the next few years we will see more consolidation in the regional industry as the regional pilot shortage deepens. American and Delta have both not been shy about stating that they wish to reduce the number of contract carriers flying for them. American currently has 10 (I think?) regionals doing their branded American Eagle flying. Unofficially I’ve heard that they want to reduce this number down to around 6. Delta has stayed that they are going to continue to grow and pump money into Endeavor and continue to bring even more of the Delta regional flying “in house”. And United has been a little bit slower in adopting the methods that both AA and Delta are utilizing but I think we’re starting to see UA change some of that by investing in CommutAir, Air Wisconsin, and ExpressJet. I think the future of the American airline industry as a whole is going to be pathway programs to the legacy and major carriers and we are already seeing the beginning of that with the legacies and to some extent JetBlue. Buyer beware if you are thinking of making a move to a regional that is a contract carrier and is not vested in by their legacy partner.
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Man, is Compass at the bottom of the barrel again? Times change, and quickly, in the regional world.
 
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