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MNFlyGuy said:
You must have been the initial instructor for a number of people that have ended up in a plane with me. In the short time I have had my CFI use of the rudder, in all phases of flight, seems to be one of the weakest areas I have seen in certified pilots. Use it right to start with, along with some other basics, and you wont need it in a spin!
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he's saying that you won't need rudders in a spin because you won't be getting into one in the first place.

wow, this is like arguing with an arrogant brick...
 
SFCC/UND said:
Wow, you're basing my flying skills on a statement that I said. How I teach my students is my business and when they pass the checkride that means I did my job right. So you have no right making those kinds of false assumptions. Re read your last part and tell me what you said makes sense! Of course you need rudders to get out of a spin.
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I did not mean that you do not need a rudder to get out of a spin, my point was if the rudder is used properly you should not end up in a spin, along with some other basic flying skills.

I did not comment on your flying skills, I commented on the flying skills of others I have seen and how a comment that rudders are "only needed to get out of a spin" may be related.

We all can benifit from varied flying experiance. I have not had the pleasure of flying a glider, but like every aircraft you and I have flown I am sure they can teach a lesson if we are willing to learn from it

You are taking a very narrow view of flying and along with it made an incorrent comment about rudders, I offered an opion on that and only that.
 
VAviator said:
he's saying that you won't need rudders in a spin because you won't be getting into one in the first place.

wow, this is like arguing with an arrogant brick...
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I'm not sure why you enter this conversation, this is why I don't like talking to a newbie. I was referencing that the only time you REALLY need to use rudders if you were in a spin because to get out of a spin we need rudder. :panic:
 
SFCC/UND said:
Then obviously you haven't flown enough. FAIL:D
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I'm willing to bet that tlewis has more time inverted than you do total. I know Hacker does.

Mastering a Seminole does NOT impress anybody here. I've done both, and the glider was much more difficult.
 
USMCmech said:
I'm willing to bet that tlewis has more time inverted than you do total. I know Hacker does.

Mastering a Seminole does NOT impress anybody here. I've done both, and the glider was much more difficult.
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Am willing to bet that I highly doubt it, plus what does inverted has to do anything? I never made a comment about being inverted.

Plus get your facts right I don't fly a seminole.
 
SFCC/UND said:
I'm not sure why you enter this conversation, this is why I don't like talking to a newbie. I was referencing that the only time you REALLY need to use rudders if you were in a spin because to get out of a spin we need rudder. :panic:
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Really I find rudder very helpful in a crosswind, PTS's seem to like the concept of coordinated flight. Give it up!

As for the newbie comment, pretty sure your attitude indicates much less total life experiance. Just plain rude...im done with ya.
 
MNFlyGuy said:
Really I find rudder very helpful in a crosswind, PTS's seem to like the concept of coordinated flight. Give it up!

As for the newbie comment, pretty sure your attitude indicates much less total life experiance. Just plain rude...im done with ya.
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Pardon for my attitude it just that you and the other guy keeps on blowing my comments way out of proportion. It's not rude it's just annoying when I'm talking to someone and two other people come out of nowhere.
 
MNFlyGuy said:
Really I find rudder very helpful in a crosswind, PTS's seem to like the concept of coordinated flight. Give it up!

As for the newbie comment, pretty sure your attitude indicates much less total life experiance. Just plain rude...im done with ya.
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i'm with you, MNFlyGuy. this argument is completely useless - much like arguing with a wall or little kid. i just hope the industry spits this guy out before any of us have deal with him as our FO.
 
Hey guys, how's the tallywacker measuring contest coming along? Any kind of consensus developing here?

:rolleyes:
 
SFCC/UND said:
Airplanes don't have a stick. So I don't see how this would make me a better pilot. Playing flight simulator will give you a better outcome than flying gliders personally, since we are constantly not maneuvering to find thermals. Rudders how hard is it to keep a ball in the center? Only time you really have to worry about using the rudders is if you're in a spin.
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You understand "stick" and "yoke" are interchangeable, and when people say "stick and rudder skills" they are referring to your ability to hand fly an airplane, right?

Further, if your understanding of coordinated flight is limited to thinking that you only need rudder in a spin, then you need to get some more education on the issue.
 
I'm getting pounded by other people for blowing my comments way out of proportion and they can't accept it. They say that they are done talking with me, but they just keep on talking.
 
jtrain609 said:
You understand "stick" and "yoke" are interchangeable, and when people say "stick and rudder skills" they are referring to your ability to hand fly an airplane, right?

Further, if your understanding of coordinated flight is limited to thinking that you only need rudder in a spin, then you need to get some more education on the issue.
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Man with your experience I would sense the humor in this, but I guess you got none.
 
SteveC said:
Hey guys, how's the tallywacker measuring contest coming along? Any kind of consensus developing here?

:rolleyes:
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I'm not really sure that's what's happening here, Steve. This guy made a few baseless comments and the forum is correcting him, quickly.

Is that bad?
 
jtrain609 said:
I'm not really sure that's what's happening here, Steve. This guy made a few baseless comments and the forum is correcting him, quickly.

Is that bad?
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Hell, I just wandered into the room, heard a bunch of noise and smelled some smoke and sprayed some fire retardent around. I ain't no referee.
 
I'm not sure there's as much smoke as you'd think, Steve.

When a pilot who has "UND" in their screen name, referring to the University of North Dakota, gets on here and says "rudders are only useful in a spin" people are going to correct them as quickly as possible. It makes the university look bad, it makes all the instructors who teach/taught there look bad, it makes the training program at UND look bad, it makes pilots in general look bad and it makes you wonder how long it's going to take for this guy to kill himself in a stall/spin accident.

You might look at this as, "glider pilots are better than fixed wing pilots...NO THEY'RE NOT, YOU'RE A POOPY FACE!" I look at it as a realistic response to a completely asinine statement that is at best wrong and at worst dangerous.

What's wrong with correcting incorrect statements?
 
jtrain609 said:
I'm not really sure that's what's happening here, Steve. This guy made a few baseless comments and the forum is correcting him, quickly.

Is that bad?
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I've never care for your comments and never will. But I guess that is you reputation around here. All I was saying was the difference between airplanes and gliders.

I guess you can't see that I was joking around when I made this comment and over and over I said that I was joking around, but you guys don't give up.
 
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