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Isn’t Taiwan already open?
Furlough Estimates
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Gonzo
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Sadly nope. I just did a week and half in ICN because TPE isn't open for overnights yet.
Cruise
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That's 5%, if they can get them all to leave which ain't nothin I guess.
If they pay me my current FO salary at guarantee plus retirement contribution from now until I turn 65, I'll go away and find something else to do. They can even keep my sick bank as a parting gift.
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Man I’d be ALLLL over that too. Seeee Yaaaaaaa!
RetiredATLATC
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Delta, others wrestle with too many planes, too many pilots
Delta Air Lines <DAL.N> moved to retire its Boeing Co <BA.N> 777 fleet and reduce its pilot ranks on Thursday as it joins other airlines wrestling with the need to shrink their operations to match reduced air travel due to the coronavirus crisis.www.reuters.com
Not really sure how these things go to the news so quick but here it is. 2500-3500 possible overstaffed summer 2021 (retirements included).
After announcing that it would no longer fly its 18 wide-body 777s, Delta told its 14,500 pilots that it expects to have 7,000 more than it needs in the fall, according to a memo to flight operations employees first reported by Reuters.
wow
tcco94
Future GTA VI Pilot
That's not really shocking to me. Still have what half the airline parked? I think summer 2021 was more what we were looking at and bring overstaffed 2500-3500 was more wow to me than 7k in the fall. I imagine the fall won't be much different for the rest of the industry.
RMCBear08
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Weren’t they saying summer of 2022 is what they were basing their staffing needs off of?
Der_Meister
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Doesn't look like that any more. But the memo also stated that things can change and they can cancel parts of the displacement AE if they want or need.
tcco94
Future GTA VI Pilot
That's what was said in a flight ops update last week but the email today didn't include what those numbers would look like. Guess after we see numbers for early retirement and how many take it, then something along the lines for 2022.... not sure. If that was summer 2021 then summer 2022 must still not be much better. I'd rather have pessimistic outlook to plan for the worst, I guess.
ZapBrannigan
If it ain’t a Boeing, I’m not going. No choice.
"Radical restructuring" doesn't seem positive. 
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Southwest CEO: Radical restructuring coming if demand doesn't improve by Sept. 30 — Fox Business
Southwest CEO Gary Kelly said Thursday he will have to "radically restructure" the airline if travel demand does not improve dramatically by the fall.
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deadstick
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chrisreedrules
Master Blaster
I think with the legacy retirement most legacy pilots won’t be on the street for more than 3-4 years. Hopefully anyway. Anyone else who’s to say really...
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arkflyr
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Well a bit of context, he said that if things don’t improve by September 30th not only SWA but the whole industry will see radical restructuring. He also said April was the bottom, May is slightly better and June is looking better than May. Basically just wait and see."Radical restructuring" doesn't seem positive.
Southwest CEO: Radical restructuring coming if demand doesn't improve by Sept. 30 — Fox Business
Southwest CEO Gary Kelly said Thursday he will have to "radically restructure" the airline if travel demand does not improve dramatically by the fall.
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Sheesh. Like sitting in an airline version of death row, with clemency being bandied about....or not.
arkflyr
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Pretty much, I put my family on financial lockdown back in March. Plus growing up a with my dad who was furloughed three times I’ve always been pretty tight with money to begin with. At least my wife finally understands why now.
Prepare for the worst and hope for the best. All I can do right now.
GypsyPilot
Mohawk Town
Exactly this. After going through 9/11 and the Great Recession, I've always been conservative with my finances. When I was a CA at SkyWest, I was still driving my old paid off Honda Accord while FOs were telling me about their nice BMWs and crazy high student loans. I did splurge on some nice things, like my mountain and road bikes. But I paid cash for them and they were relatively inexpensive compared to cars.
We have enough in savings to make it a few years on furlough, if we include UI and my wife going back to work. That definitely takes some stress off, and makes a lot of the sacrifices the past few years well worth it.
tcco94
Future GTA VI Pilot
This is what I'm hoping for