Furlough Estimates

BEEF SUPREME said:
That’s odd. Everyone I know i Seattle in medicine is getting furloughed or having hours reduced. Hospitals are for the most part empty.


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Hospitals that aren't taking covid patients, and made their money on voluntary surgical procedures, are furloughing. That's 100% true.

That paints a picture of how dysfunctional a for profit health care system is, not how many people are dying from covid.

Meanwhile, in Detroit, patients have been dying in hallways.
 
jtrain609 said:
Do you actually know anyone on the front lines of dealing with this?
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All three of my sisters are "on the front lines" in NJ. 2 MSN's and an NP. The NP (60 yrs of age) worked a week in New Brunswick and got the virus, showed symptoms and was tested positive. Symptoms gone in 4 days with OTC meds. Initially they were told that they should report for duty 72 hours after no fever. Calls HR for assignment they tell her they don't need her, there's not enough patients, go on temp disability or unemployment.

MSN #1 - Home hospice nurse told to report to the hospital to care for COVID patients last week. So few patients materialized they sent her back to her regular home care duty.

MSN #2 - working a non COVID med surg floor because they don't need her for COVID patients. Likely to be laid off the end of this week or go back to outpatient surgery if that starts up again.

All three within 40 miles of NYC.

Having said that, all three have told me that if you get sick enough to be hospitalized, it's a very scary and painful disease, made worse for the patient by the isolation and worse for the caregivers from the anxiety created by caring for those so sick and at the same time worrying about getting it or bringing it home. There will be a lot of PTSD in the "front line" medical staff from the big center hospitals when this is over.

jtrain609 said:
That paints a picture of how dysfunctional a for profit health care system is, not how many people are dying from covid.
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Absolutely, it's all about the Benjamins.
jtrain609 said:
Meanwhile, in Detroit, patients have been dying in hallways.
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That was from April 9th articles and 2 people. After having been an EMT and cop for a total of 28 years, I assure you that's not all that unlikely to happen in a city hospital.
 
jtrain609 said:
Hospitals that aren't taking covid patients, and made their money on voluntary surgical procedures, are furloughing. That's 100% true.

That paints a picture of how dysfunctional a for profit health care system is, not how many people are dying from covid.

Meanwhile, in Detroit, patients have been dying in hallways.
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Agree 100% on for profit. I’ve felt that way long before the ‘Rona


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AAPalmTree said:
I got news for you... it ain’t the rona either. Look at how many die of pneumonia/respiratory issues every year in the
US. Look at the first quarter of 2020. Why are those numbers drastically down?
My take... we are waaaay overreacting to covid. The media is helping. It is a extremely contagious disease that’s very dangerous to the elderly/compromised. I believe, like someone posted above, the media is 24/7, which means they have to sell, which immediately makes it not so much “news” anymore.
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They’re not down though. We’re still undercounting.
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web265 said:
All three of my sisters are "on the front lines" in NJ. 2 MSN's and an NP. The NP (60 yrs of age) worked a week in New Brunswick and got the virus, showed symptoms and was tested positive. Symptoms gone in 4 days with OTC meds. Initially they were told that they should report for duty 72 hours after no fever. Calls HR for assignment they tell her they don't need her, there's not enough patients, go on temp disability or unemployment.

MSN #1 - Home hospice nurse told to report to the hospital to care for COVID patients last week. So few patients materialized they sent her back to her regular home care duty.

MSN #2 - working a non COVID med surg floor because they don't need her for COVID patients. Likely to be laid off the end of this week or go back to outpatient surgery if that starts up again.

All three within 40 miles of NYC.

Having said that, all three have told me that if you get sick enough to be hospitalized, it's a very scary and painful disease, made worse for the patient by the isolation and worse for the caregivers from the anxiety created by caring for those so sick and at the same time worrying about getting it or bringing it home. There will be a lot of PTSD in the "front line" medical staff from the big center hospitals when this is over.


Absolutely, it's all about the Benjamins.

That was from April 9th articles and 2 people. After having been an EMT and cop for a total of 28 years, I assure you that's not all that unlikely to happen in a city hospital.
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It’s almost like having people stay home has drastically slowed the spread of the disease. Maybe now that they’re not stacking bodies in refrigerator trucks anymore we can work towards a new normal.
 
JEP said:
saw a post this morning on another site; Republic furloughing 300 to include the last 4 pilot classes.
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300? The last 4 classes for them amounted to 68 furloughs based on their email they sent. Unless you're saying they've cut deeper and furloughed another 232.
 
tcco94 said:
300? The last 4 classes for them amounted to 68 furloughs based on their email they sent. Unless you're saying they've cut deeper and furloughed another 232.
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the 300 was across the board including pilots was how I read it.
 
People just aren't going to hospitals. They're dying at home of treatable ailments. It's the major reason why staff are being laid off, as there just isn't work for them. A 40% decline in Heart Attack treatment, for example. These are deaths caused by the over reaction to the virus.
 
NickH said:
People just aren't going to hospitals. They're dying at home of treatable ailments. It's the major reason why staff are being laid off, as there just isn't work for them. A 40% decline in Heart Attack treatment, for example. These are deaths caused by the over reaction to the virus.
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Yup... my wife is a paramedic and the vast majority of patients they would have taken to the ER/Hospital in the past are not making that trip now......
 
BEEF SUPREME said:
That’s odd. Everyone I know i Seattle in medicine is getting furloughed or having hours reduced. Hospitals are for the most part empty.


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My sister is a nurse and is on furlough. But she’s also a nurse that works for a Cosmetic Surgeon and with the ban on elective surgeries, there’s not a strong case that the Hannahs and the Brooklyns need to have emergency sets of silicone/saline after-market bolt-ons during the Pandemic. She really can’t go down to the local hospital and tag herself in.
 
Derg said:
My sister is a nurse and is on furlough. But she’s also a nurse that works for a Cosmetic Surgeon and with the ban on elective surgeries, there’s not a strong case that the Hannahs and the Brooklyns need to have emergency sets of silicone/saline after-market bolt-ons during the Pandemic. She really can’t go down to the local hospital and tag herself in.
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One could also argue that her skill set would be useful in a global pandemic. Just the knowledge of how to use single use gloves and other PPE. If there was a crushing demand on hospitals and hospital workers getting sick your sister would likely be a highly sought after commodity.
 
BEEF SUPREME said:
One could also argue that her skill set would be useful in a global pandemic. Just the knowledge of how to use single use gloves and other PPE. If there was a crushing demand on hospitals and hospital workers getting sick your sister would likely be a highly sought after commodity.
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With something like 97-98% of the population still vulnerable, there’s plenty of time for that if the flu klutz klan has their way...
 
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