Fuel Burn of the ERJ145 and CRJ200

I still bring that one up in recurrent a few times a month... mainly because I was the last FO to survive flying with that captain.

Stall? Upset? PUSH! Do not pull!

Many other factors with that one as well, of course.

To be fair, stall recovery back then was being taught as a proficiency maneuver and we were encouraged to slightly pull back and hold altitude to power out of the condition :rolleyes:

Now it's taught as a survival maneuver to immediately decrease the angle of attack ASAP and accept that you will lose some altitude. That's how it should have been from day 1. It was the dumbest thing I learned in CRJ initial to hold myself in the stick shaker and power out. How the FAA signed off on that is beyond me.
 
UH-60 which has the same engines of the Saab 340, 900-1000pph depending what bleeds are used (ice and cabin heater)
 
The OP posted about the ERJ145 & CRJ200, and since I don't fly either of those, I'm going to follow everyone else and post an answer unrelated to the question asked.

The R-4360 in Dreadnought burns about 2,640pph during race power. Or about 440gph.


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To be fair, stall recovery back then was being taught as a proficiency maneuver and we were encouraged to slightly pull back and hold altitude to power out of the condition :rolleyes:

Now it's taught as a survival maneuver to immediately decrease the angle of attack ASAP and accept that you will lose some altitude. That's how it should have been from day 1. It was the dumbest thing I learned in CRJ initial to hold myself in the stick shaker and power out. How the FAA signed off on that is beyond me.

You were encouraged that at 10,000 feet to protect altitude loss. Anyone with any idea of aerodynamics and jet engine performance knew that pulling back at FL410 (or FL200) was a bad idea. It seemed the schoolhouse assumed people would know to push at high altitude when the engines were already at maximum performance. Poor assumption.

They had the perfect lower functioning crew for that night at the time to create the accident conditions.
 
I am working on a project to compare the fuel burn of CRJ200s, ERJ145s, Saab340s and ATRs (42s and 72s). Obviously the turboprops burn less fuel, but I want to understand exactly how much less. I would really appreciate any information on average hourly fuel burn on any of the noted types. Also - would love to get any other operating information. If you have flown the type - was it generally reliable or was it always in the hangar. Many thanks in advance.

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We are between 500-700 an hour. That's amazing 300 more pph for more than double the weight and you guys are down low as well. We are usually at 290-350.
Thanks for the post. Can you clarify the aircraft you are flying when you note you are at 500-700 an hour?
 
What I remember (I think) specifically was that the 200 burned about 40lbs a minute in the hold. That's what I remember using as a calculator for how long I could hold. It was reliable but it sucked. Sucked bad.
Thanks very much. Presumably you were at a lower fuel burn in the hold (lower power setting)? Any thoughts on cruise? Apologies if that is not the right way to think about it. So it reliably sucked or it was reliable, but you didn't like flying it? Ha - thanks again for your thoughts.
 
Many thanks for all of the feedback. Any thoughts on reliability? I have heard the noise in an ERJ145 cockpit can be loud - any truth to this?
 
From my poor fuzzy memory

BE-1900 19 pax ~500-550lb/hr (1000-1100lb/hr total)

Emb-145. 50 pax ~1250-1300lb/hr in cruise (2500-2600lb/hr total)
Crj-700 65 pax 1600lb/hr in cruise (3200lb/hr total)

320NEO 182 pax 2000-2200lb/hr (4000-4400lb/hr total)
320CEO 182 pax 2400-2600lb/hr (4800-5200lb/hr total)

of course it varies by aircraft load cruise altitude cruise speed etc but those are rough averages from what I've seen.

Maybe you are looking for the cruise performance tables?
Thanks very much. A cruise performance table would be great if you have it.
 
Here's some planned fuel data from a 123 minute flight in the E145 today:
Total burn 5902 lbs.
30 minutes to top of climb FL360, burn 2143 lbs.
69 minutes in cruise, burn 3067 lbs.
24 minutes in the descent, burn 692 lbs.
Thanks very much - this is great. This works out to a rough average of 2,667 lbs/ hour at cruise - would you say that is pretty normal?
 
Many thanks for all of the feedback. Any thoughts on reliability? I have heard the noise in an ERJ145 cockpit can be loud - any truth to this?

The noise level is high on the 145 at high indicated airspeeds. Say above 290 KIAS it's pretty bad. Below 250KIAS not so bad.
 
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