Boris Badenov
Fortis Leader
Hmm let's see 60% less fuel at half the speed with half the people...carry the one, scribble scribble, uh. Hmm. Well I'm sure it has a great personality.
not ours. -_-Is the CRJ at 410, dude? Oh, comeon, someone had to.
We are between 500-700 an hour. That's amazing 300 more pph for more than double the weight and you guys are down low as well. We are usually at 290-350.The SAAB 340 averages about 1000lbs per hour.
I still bring that one up in recurrent a few times a month... mainly because I was the last FO to survive flying with that captain.
Stall? Upset? PUSH! Do not pull!
Many other factors with that one as well, of course.
To be fair, stall recovery back then was being taught as a proficiency maneuver and we were encouraged to slightly pull back and hold altitude to power out of the condition
Now it's taught as a survival maneuver to immediately decrease the angle of attack ASAP and accept that you will lose some altitude. That's how it should have been from day 1. It was the dumbest thing I learned in CRJ initial to hold myself in the stick shaker and power out. How the FAA signed off on that is beyond me.
I am working on a project to compare the fuel burn of CRJ200s, ERJ145s, Saab340s and ATRs (42s and 72s). Obviously the turboprops burn less fuel, but I want to understand exactly how much less. I would really appreciate any information on average hourly fuel burn on any of the noted types. Also - would love to get any other operating information. If you have flown the type - was it generally reliable or was it always in the hangar. Many thanks in advance.
Thanks for the post. Can you clarify the aircraft you are flying when you note you are at 500-700 an hour?We are between 500-700 an hour. That's amazing 300 more pph for more than double the weight and you guys are down low as well. We are usually at 290-350.
Having flown both - can you say one type was more "ugh" than the other? Was one more reliable? Many Thanks.Having flown both, "ugh."
Thanks very much. Presumably you were at a lower fuel burn in the hold (lower power setting)? Any thoughts on cruise? Apologies if that is not the right way to think about it. So it reliably sucked or it was reliable, but you didn't like flying it? Ha - thanks again for your thoughts.What I remember (I think) specifically was that the 200 burned about 40lbs a minute in the hold. That's what I remember using as a calculator for how long I could hold. It was reliable but it sucked. Sucked bad.
Thanks very much. A cruise performance table would be great if you have it.From my poor fuzzy memory
BE-1900 19 pax ~500-550lb/hr (1000-1100lb/hr total)
Emb-145. 50 pax ~1250-1300lb/hr in cruise (2500-2600lb/hr total)
Crj-700 65 pax 1600lb/hr in cruise (3200lb/hr total)
320NEO 182 pax 2000-2200lb/hr (4000-4400lb/hr total)
320CEO 182 pax 2400-2600lb/hr (4800-5200lb/hr total)
of course it varies by aircraft load cruise altitude cruise speed etc but those are rough averages from what I've seen.
Maybe you are looking for the cruise performance tables?
Thanks very much - this is great. This works out to a rough average of 2,667 lbs/ hour at cruise - would you say that is pretty normal?Here's some planned fuel data from a 123 minute flight in the E145 today:
Total burn 5902 lbs.
30 minutes to top of climb FL360, burn 2143 lbs.
69 minutes in cruise, burn 3067 lbs.
24 minutes in the descent, burn 692 lbs.
King Air 200Thanks for the post. Can you clarify the aircraft you are flying when you note you are at 500-700 an hour?
Many thanks for all of the feedback. Any thoughts on reliability? I have heard the noise in an ERJ145 cockpit can be loud - any truth to this?
Hmm let's see 60% less fuel at half the speed with half the people...carry the one, scribble scribble, uh. Hmm. Well I'm sure it has a great personality.