Free in-house Delta Pilot Job Fair

Maximillian_Jenius said:
Laugh all you want, but if he wins. The Secret Police are gonna show up at your place. And it's back to Pakistan for you!

;)
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I got a visit from the FBI this year.


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Hacker15e said:
I thought you all ready learned that you shouldn't mess with those Third Generation Arizonians!
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LOL!

Nah. Not involved with that at all, but POINTS! :)

One simply doesn't threaten a meritless lawsuit through the interwebs. There's a specific "procedure" and if you're not following that, and trust me I've been down that road before, you're bloviating and shooting yourself in the professional "foot".
 
Hacker15e said:
Or, simply, "thank you for the opportunity" and leave it at that.

There are plenty of opportunities in the actual interview to explain why you think you'd be a good fit (e.g. "tell us about yourself" right at the beginning) as well as opportunities to demonstrate it in how you answer the situational questions.

There's no need to come up with some "closing statement" or a contrived question just to have something to say before shaking hands and walking out the door of the interview room. The impression has all ready been made by that point.

"Thank you for the opportunity to join your team", with a firm handshake and a smile is a simple and powerful statement, too.
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Bingo!
 
Hacker15e said:
Or, simply, "thank you for the opportunity" and leave it at that.

There are plenty of opportunities in the actual interview to explain why you think you'd be a good fit (e.g. "tell us about yourself" right at the beginning) as well as opportunities to demonstrate it in how you answer the situational questions.

There's no need to come up with some "closing statement" or a contrived question just to have something to say before shaking hands and walking out the door of the interview room. The impression has all ready been made by that point.

"Thank you for the opportunity to join your team", with a firm handshake and a smile is a simple and powerful statement, too.
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In my mind that's something though. It sure beats "so do you have anything for us?"

"Ahhhhh. Nope! I got nothing!"

*blank stares* "Thank you Mr. Applicant. We will let you know."

Applicant gets up and walks out whilst saying thank you.
 
@Hacker15e

I really appreciate the perspective, but here's where I can give a more complete picture of why it can actually be quite beneficial during a job fair.

If you show indifferent interest at a job fair, there isn't going to be an opportunity to bring out the big guns and shine during the interview that probably isn't going to be offered.

Here's a good example from my friend at a different carrier. My friend had a somewhat OK candidate, decent numbers, a little "meh" because he was trying to read down the script, really wasn't shining and seemed qualified, but not particularly someone that stood out in the crowd. Another resume, another grid of numbers, nothing really exceptional.

Then the candidate asked a pretty interesting question which lead into a broader discussion and it really changed the evaluators perspective from a "meh" candidate to one that he'd recommend for an interview because he finally was able to get off script and really show who he was.

The evaluator went from "ehh" to "hot damn, this kid is a catch", was eventually scheduled an interview and hired. But it isn't a universal truth because some people are able to shine off the bat, and some need some convincing that it's perfectly ok to be yourself. Oftentimes that opportunity is an off-the-grid opportunity like "Do you have any questions? Ask me anything."

If it were simply a numbers game and the company says they need to hire 1300 pilots, they could just get a few sheets of college-ruled paper, mark it 1 through 1,300, put them somewhere mid-continent like Kansas City and put a "jumpseat in to sign up for a job", first come first on the seniority list for 2016.

Job fairs, at least in some company perspectives are to highlight a candidates "qualitative" aspects and if the qualitative matches certain quantitative strengths, we've got a formal interview invite. However, just because a candidate hasn't been immediately called after a career fair does not mean that they're already in the queue to be called soon. I've heard too many stories of guys who did well, that publicly Facebooked "Merkin sucked at OBAP!" only to have their team catch wind of it and pull them off the invite queue.
 
"I appreciate the perspective" is an awesome way to tell someone they're speaking out their rectum, hehe.

Of course that's a legitimate point (obviously, your friend knows more about this specific situation than I do -- I am neither a Delta recruiter nor interviewer), but even you admit that's an outlier of a situation. In the same way, asking a stupid question in that same scenario could also be an opportunity to stick your foot in your mouth, rather than if you'd just shaken hands and said "thank you". Both situations are probably outliers.

To be fair, I was referring to being asked the question at the end of an actual interview, not at the end of a job fair grip-and-grin. So, my bad if I interjected into the wrong discussion. But, I maintain that there's no need to come up with something to say at the end if you don't actually have a question that couldn't have been otherwise answered through appropriate research yourself prior to the interview.
 
Really more of a "that's a good answer" but not necessarily complete from an evaluators perspective.

I concur with your statement, but I want to paint a more complete answer.

If I think you're full of doo-doo, you're a big boy, I'd just say you're full of doo-doo then buy you a shot in Vegas and still say, "You're full of doo-doo, but drink up!" :)

But you're not full of doo-doo.
 
If I have anything to do with it, you won't pay for a drink whenever you're in Vegas and I'm around, Doug.
 
Derg said:
@Hacker15e

I really appreciate the perspective, but here's where I can give a more complete picture of why it can actually be quite beneficial during a job fair.

If you show indifferent interest at a job fair, there isn't going to be an opportunity to bring out the big guns and shine during the interview that probably isn't going to be offered.

Here's a good example from my friend at a different carrier. My friend had a somewhat OK candidate, decent numbers, a little "meh" because he was trying to read down the script, really wasn't shining and seemed qualified, but not particularly someone that stood out in the crowd. Another resume, another grid of numbers, nothing really exceptional.

Then the candidate asked a pretty interesting question which lead into a broader discussion and it really changed the evaluators perspective from a "meh" candidate to one that he'd recommend for an interview because he finally was able to get off script and really show who he was.

The evaluator went from "ehh" to "hot damn, this kid is a catch", was eventually scheduled an interview and hired. But it isn't a universal truth because some people are able to shine off the bat, and some need some convincing that it's perfectly ok to be yourself. Oftentimes that opportunity is an off-the-grid opportunity like "Do you have any questions? Ask me anything."
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What on earth was the one question that suddenly changed the interviewers perspective of this person?
 
Gross. Hamm's is the new Pabst? I mean Pabst is swill but you can drink it. I remember having Hamm's about eight beers in and saying "well, I guess eight really is enough".
 
Bonanzaman said:
What on earth was the one question that suddenly changed the interviewers perspective of this person?
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There's no one question.

It's an introduction to a conversation about the qualitative aspects of the applicant.

Something, perhaps that they can relate with. My friend is part of a larger group of similar people with compatible interests and they're always looking for people who, no matter what their walk of life, are able to form a team with.

Any good evaluator is always searching for his replacement. Always.

I can't give you the answer because there is none.
 
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