Free in-house Delta Pilot Job Fair

A Life Aloft said:
I wouldn't count on that or even look at it that way. You are going to be watched and evaluated no matter the atmosphere or the venue. You have a short opportunity/time frame to make your mark. Be on your A game at every moment. Words and actions travel fast. That can be a good thing or a not so good thing. You have the control over that. No one else.
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Are you at Delta? That's not a shot at you, just an honest question. I ask because in my time here, and having gone through this whole process just two years ago, I cannot make it clear how much Delta wants you to be comfortable and be yourself at every turn. They know everyone they interview is qualified for the job. In fact, they expect to hire everyone that does interview.

For Delta to go to this length to host on campus this type of event, tells me they want a more informal atmosphere. My positive spin on this is they want to break the mold when it comes to "job fairs." I see this as a great change for the future. Especially since it greatly reduces the cost for applicants.
 
No, another carrier and I am retired now. We aren't debating job fairs or even what the atmosphere is going to be or how welcoming Delta will be. That is not my point. I maintain, that no matter how "relaxed" or "informal" this event may be, anyone attending still needs to put their best foot forward regardless of the venue. No one is naive enough to think that attendees will not be watched and noted. It behooves everyone attending to make the most professional impression that you can, be eager, positive and open. Your behavior and demeanor will be remembered. That's all I am trying to get across here. And yes, I agree that having this type of event is terrific. I sincerely hope that we see some members here, make an impression and gain some headway in their careers.
 
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Derg said:
The problem is with when you attempt to anonymously troll, you're certainly getting attention, you get hooked on that attention and the more you interact, the more you reveal who you actually are.

And it's a very, very small world. Extremely small.

Anonymity is a fantasy, especially when there are probably at most two degrees of separation between any two pilots.

The Manager of Pilot Development, literally (yes that's the right word), is on that page daily. Daaaaaaaaaily. *footstomp* *footstomp*
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Preach on brother....
 
Pilotdude3407 said:
Ok, so this is more "inaccurate" information. Let's work on getting the "accurate" information out there. This is why everyone stays frustrated. Everything is inaccurate and there is very little that DAL is admitting to. They are getting slightly better recently with coming out on FB and dispelling some myths but nothing along these lines. If you have some concrete info that would correct what I wrote then I would love to get that corrected.
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At the end of the day they don't have to say or do anything if they don't want to. What more do you want besides an interview?
 
Ok, for some reason I feel like I'm being chastised for wanting the most amount of info I can before blindly walking into a place of business that I want to work and has generally been held to be rather difficult to get. I keep getting told that I'm way off base, I have inaccurate information, that it isn't what I think it's going to be, I need to throw out how everyone has been approaching these job fairs. If you have some more concrete information then we would all appreciate knowing it. Just saying it is wrong and inaccurate isn't helpful. Tell us what is wrong with it and what we need to know to fix it. If you are under penalty of death not to reveal and DAL doesn't want to come out and tell then I'm not sure how everyone wants this to go down. Most of us are clawing our way up the slippery ladder of politics and 2016 HR shenanigans and are genuinely interested in being as prepared and up to date as possible.
 
SpiceWeasel said:
Well, this was certainly the worst post in the thread. I'd probably check that attitude if I were you. You realize HQ is in.... ATL, right? So, they opened it around 8 AM eastern... for a free job fair ...
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If people want to fly for Delta, they need to get used to everything revolving around ATL and the Eastern time zone!
 
Pilotdude3407 said:
Ok, for some reason I feel like I'm being chastised for wanting the most amount of info I can before blindly walking into a place of business that I want to work and has generally been held to be rather difficult to get. I keep getting told that I'm way off base, I have inaccurate information, that it isn't what I think it's going to be, I need to throw out how everyone has been approaching these job fairs. If you have some more concrete information then we would all appreciate knowing it. Just saying it is wrong and inaccurate isn't helpful. Tell us what is wrong with it and what we need to know to fix it. If you are under penalty of death not to reveal and DAL doesn't want to come out and tell then I'm not sure how everyone wants this to go down. Most of us are clawing our way up the slippery ladder of politics and 2016 HR shenanigans and are genuinely interested in being as prepared and up to date as possible.
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I won't speak for Derg, but I think it is obvious all he was referring to was the info you have about only getting apps scored as a result of attending job fairs was inaccurate. I don't see how that translates to all of your knowledge about job fairs as being inaccurate.

My intent was not to chastise you so I'm sorry if it came across that way. Is it so hard to believe that this could be a paradigm shift in hiring practices? So much of our industry is changing rapidly so there's no reason to believe this would be immune. There is ample evidence to suggest interview invitations will result from this career expo.

As has wisely been pointed out by my new retired friend on this board, treat it as any other professional gathering and always assume eyes are on you from the moment you step foot into the museum.

I wish you best of luck.


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Whiskey Delta said:
I won't speak for Derg, but I think it is obvious all he was referring to was the info you have about only getting apps scored as a result of attending job fairs was inaccurate. I don't see how that translates to all of your knowledge about job fairs as being inaccurate.

My intent was not to chastise you so I'm sorry if it came across that way. Is it so hard to believe that this could be a paradigm shift in hiring practices? So much of our industry is changing rapidly so there's no reason to believe this would be immune. There is ample evidence to suggest interview invitations will result from this career expo.

As has wisely been point out my new retired friend on this board, treat it as any other professional gathering and always assume eyes are on you from the moment you step foot into the museum.

I wish you best of luck.


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This was helpful. Thank you. My original question was supposed to be a simple yes or no and not cause a big issue. I was not saying that going to a job fair was the only way to get it scored or anything. I have been told and I think was confirmed by DAL at some point that attending a job fair would get your app scored in addition to other things. I was merely asking if this expo would as well. Simple as that. Anyway, horse beaten to death. I will slip back into the web and observe any other info anyone has.
 
Pilotdude3407 said:
Ok, for some reason I feel like I'm being chastised for wanting the most amount of info I can before blindly walking into a place of business that I want to work and has generally been held to be rather difficult to get. I keep getting told that I'm way off base, I have inaccurate information, that it isn't what I think it's going to be, I need to throw out how everyone has been approaching these job fairs. If you have some more concrete information then we would all appreciate knowing it. Just saying it is wrong and inaccurate isn't helpful. Tell us what is wrong with it and what we need to know to fix it. If you are under penalty of death not to reveal and DAL doesn't want to come out and tell then I'm not sure how everyone wants this to go down. Most of us are clawing our way up the slippery ladder of politics and 2016 HR shenanigans and are genuinely interested in being as prepared and up to date as possible.
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I think you are looking too deep. It can't be handed to you on a silver spoon. Just show up and be yourself.
 
Whiskey Delta said:
Yeah no reason to go more tangential.
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No worries! :) More of a testimony to me getting off the couch!

I just spoke with a former coworker who says that each day of this career expo has 500 people.
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That's what I've been told as well.

If so and we hired everyone that comes to it, that could be most of our 2017 hires. Any word on if that number is true?
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While I can't comment directly, that's more or less ballpark. IF they interviewed and hired most of the people but don't have (and can't) disclose the number of people that do well that go on further in the interview process and the number of them that are successful.

I know it's a long shot we hire them all but I guess my greater point is if we hold 1 maybe 2 of these a year and keep drawing that many, this could be our meal ticket going forward and hopefully give us a leg up over the other legacies/majors.
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Precisely! :)
 
Pilotdude3407 said:
Ok, so this is more "inaccurate" information. Let's work on getting the "accurate" information out there. This is why everyone stays frustrated. Everything is inaccurate and there is very little that DAL is admitting to. They are getting slightly better recently with coming out on FB and dispelling some myths but nothing along these lines. If you have some concrete info that would correct what I wrote then I would love to get that corrected.
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Sigh.

All you've got to do is ask. The recruitment team set up a Facebook page so you know you're getting a direct answer straight from the horses mouth.

Hell, even I call my friend to ask him questions to tell you folks what the word is and, well, it's a week of arguing it out and "yeah, but…"

I implore you to consider the source because a large percentage of it is flight deck chat and counter-intelligence by some of the less reputable prep companies to keep you frustrated and those dollars rolling in.

I assure you, if you have a direct question and ask the right people, you will get a direct answer. But you have to want to hear the answer.

From what I've heard from my friend, there's a lot of "Flat Earth Society" taking place online.

But, @Pilotdude3407, ask a direct question here! :) I'll can text someone and get you an answer. Balls in your court.

It's only as hard and frustrating as thinking internet forums (yes, including this one on some subjects) are the alpha-to-omega of information. I can't tell you how many people tell my friend, "No, you're wrong, the process works like this according to Flightinfo…" right there, during a face-to-face at a recruitment event.
 
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Whiskey Delta said:
You and Pilotdude3407 are equating other, typical job fairs to what Delta is organizing. This is not the same as those. Heck, it's not even called a job fair. It's a career expo. This should provide far more face time with a Delta person than those other events.

Let's just say things are changing and you should discard what you've learned about job fairs up until now. Going in thinking it's the same will be a disadvantage.
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Correct. It's not show up at your allotted time, stand in line, talk for 5 to 20 minutes and leave.

There is A LOT of stuff that's going to be taking place.

I hear it's gonna be YOOOOOOOJ.
 
Pilotdude3407 said:
Ok, so this is more "inaccurate" information. Let's work on getting the "accurate" information out there. This is why everyone stays frustrated. Everything is inaccurate and there is very little that DAL is admitting to. They are getting slightly better recently with coming out on FB and dispelling some myths but nothing along these lines. If you have some concrete info that would correct what I wrote then I would love to get that corrected.
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Start here:


http://www.aerocrewnews.us/acn/2016/03-ACN-Mar-2016.pdf

Read the interview with AK. Very straightforward and I believe contains the answers you seek...
 
Derg said:
Correct. It's not show up at your allotted time, stand in line, talk for 5 to 20 minutes and leave.

There is A LOT of stuff that's going to be taking place.

I hear it's gonna be YOOOOOOOJ.
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This is just my feeling about this and not anything "official," but I get the feeling that this is the end result of too many guys taking the job and then going to UAL, AA, SWA, when they get a job offer from them.

Traditionally, when you got called for an interview, you were basically hired, it was your job to lose. However, Delta only had a small window to get to know the applicant. By doing it this way, not only do they get more time with the applicant, the applicant gets more time with the company. That way, it cuts down on the lateral movers. For every spot an applicant takes, just to move on a few months later, is one less spot that someone who truly wants to work at Delta can have. Not to mention the cost of having to replace that individual.

Again, just my thoughts on this. I think it's a great idea. It's kinda like the old CP pre interview interviews. I want us to only hire those that really want to be here, not guys that are just looking for a paycheck until some other airline calls them.
 
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