Flying High w/Bieber

[Autothrust Blue]

Maybe he had an Rx for it? I guess the only way to know for sure would be to have a laboratory test it. Or call the Feds, which is what it sounds like what they did. I think the crew is fine, at least with the FAA. But probably out of a job, since rich folks generally don't retain the services of those that call the cops on them.

The Feds don't care.

What about this part:
"He has been charged with three misdemeanor charges for DUI, resisting arrest without violence and for driving with an expired license. He had marijuana and Xanax in his system at the time."

"The police report said that Bieber had blood shot eyes, was flushed, in a stupor, smelled of alcohol and was incoherent. He failed a field sobriety test, miserably, they said. The drinking age in Florida is 21. In that state, there's zero tolerance for minors drinking alcohol.

His attitude was profane, insulting and cocky. When told he “reeked” of marijuana, Bieber said: “Yeah, we were smoking all night at the studio.” Police said Bieber “continuously forgot basic instructions,” and they believed he was purposefully not taking the test correctly. He performed the breathalyzer exam correctly only after police told him he would lose his license if he “refused” the test, according to the affidavit." Bieber's crew reportedly had blocked off the road with their cars to create an improvised drag strip.

Some of the Bieber apologists (yes, there are such things) like to yell and scream "He was under the legal limit of .whatever!" while ignoring that whole "under 21" thing.

I'd like to see "role models" held to a higher standard than regular Joes, not lower standards.

 

[Pilot Fighter]

The Feds don't care.


Some of the Bieber apologists (yes, there are such things) like to yell and scream "He was under the legal limit of .whatever!" while ignoring that whole "under 21" thing.

I'd like to see "role models" held to a higher standard than regular Joes, not lower standards.

Agreed. Any criticism or skepticism I might have towards the media or police is overshadowed by the extent to which Bieber has harmed his young followers. The acceptance of drug and alcohol use among our youth is disturbing. Where's the outrage? I think this kid should be banned from the US until he gets his act together.

The intent of my original post was to suggest that we should be as objective as we should be following an aircraft accident, a hypocritical and and ironic cry for reason.

 

[Seggy]

Here is the thing that cracks me up.

In the future the Biebs is going to need to charter a jet. Even though he is a Grade A scum bag, probably does illegal things in the back, puts the crew in jeopardy, trashes the plane, etc. someone will still fly him.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

Here is the thing that cracks me up.

In the future the Biebs is going to need to charter a jet. Even though he is a Grade A scum bag, probably does illegal things in the back, puts the crew in jeopardy, trashes the plane, etc. someone will still fly him.

Heeeeey, must be the money.

 

[Goonie]

Meh, I flew 30 Saudi royals once and they chain smoked the entire flight. They were also paying almost 300K for the flight so we just shut up about it. They could have been doing blow off hookers back there for all I know....

When I used to fly King Airs I was more concerned with them pooping in the lav than I was about them doing a little partying in the back.

In the Bieb case I would just land, call the company, tell them about it, collect a paycheck and enjoy a beer at the hotel.

 

[Boris Badenov]

We talked about this one at the Schule Haus a bit (we're all so Ace we don't have anything better to talk about). The general consensus seemed to be that they must have been mega-vile to provoke this kind of response. Like, I don't think anyone freaks out because, you know, rock stars light up a jay here and there. And like dollars to donuts it's not the first time (or the tenth time) these dudes have smelled something a bit off from the back, or they wouldn't be flying a gee-jizz around.

That said, if, and only if (in the fine tradition of holding up Just Culture) the little bastard was screaming at the F/A and hotboxing the cabin after repeated warnings, well. I'm in said Haus with one of the big wheels who signs the checks and he seems like he'd back us up for anything up to light crucifixion.

 

[A Life Aloft]

The Feds don't care.

Well, apparently, now they do:

2-7-2014

Washington (CNN) -- The Federal Aviation Administration said Friday that it is looking into allegations that passengers onboard singer Justin Bieber's charter flight last week interfered with the flight crew.

Under FAA regulations, "No person may assault, threaten, intimidate, or interfere with a crew member in the performance of the crew member's duties aboard an aircraft."

According to a law enforcement sources, Bieber and his father were "extremely abusive verbally" to a flight attendant during a flight on the chartered Gulfstream IV aircraft from Ontario, Canada, to Teterboro Airport in New Jersey last Friday in advance of the Super Bowl.

Justin Bieber and his father refused a pilot's repeated warnings to stop smoking pot on the flight, according to a report by U.S. Customs and Border Protection, which was read to CNN.

The pilots asked the flight attendant to remain in the cockpit to protect her from the alleged abusive behavior, the report says.

Law enforcement sources told CNN that the pilots donned oxygen masks to keep them from inhaling the pot smoke. The pilots were concerned the smoke would result in them failing drug tests, law enforcement sources told CNN.

After the jet landed at Teterboro, federal agents from CBP, the Drug Enforcement Administration and Immigration and Customs Enforcement said they detected the odor of marijuana, which prompted a search by drug-sniffing dogs, the source said. No drugs were found, a law enforcement source told CNN.

Bieber, 19, a citizen of Canada living in the United States on a work visa, was detained by border agents for several hours of questioning to determine if he was admissible to the United States. Bieber and his entourage of 10 were granted re-entry.

Authorities said both civil and criminal statues prohibit passengers from interfering with the a flight crew in the performance of their duties. Under a civil statute, violators face penalties of $11,000 to $27,500, the FAA said. Under a criminal statute, violators face a maximum of 20 years in prison and fines up to $250,000.

It is not clear how the case came to the FAA's attention. The agency declined to say whether they were alerted by complaints from the pilots, by media reports, or by the investigating CBP officers or others.

In a statement to CNN on Friday, the FAA said it is "looking into allegations" that passengers on the plane interfered with the flight crew, but it did not identify specific passengers.

A representative for the pop star had no comment Friday night.

Bieber has had several encounters with law enforcement authorities in recent months. He was recently arrested in Toronto, accused of assaulting his limousine driver in December.

He also faces charges of DUI, resisting arrest and driving on an expired license after being stopped by police in Miami Beach, Florida, last month.

The Los Angeles County district attorney is considering whether to charge Bieber with felony vandalism on his neighbor's house on January 9, 2014.

 

[SeanD]

Well, apparently, now they do:

2-7-2014

Washington (CNN) -- The Federal Aviation Administration said Friday that it is looking into allegations that passengers onboard singer Justin Bieber's charter flight last week interfered with the flight crew.

Under FAA regulations, "No person may assault, threaten, intimidate, or interfere with a crew member in the performance of the crew member's duties aboard an aircraft."

According to a law enforcement sources, Bieber and his father were "extremely abusive verbally" to a flight attendant during a flight on the chartered Gulfstream IV aircraft from Ontario, Canada, to Teterboro Airport in New Jersey last Friday in advance of the Super Bowl.

Justin Bieber and his father refused a pilot's repeated warnings to stop smoking pot on the flight, according to a report by U.S. Customs and Border Protection, which was read to CNN.

The pilots asked the flight attendant to remain in the cockpit to protect her from the alleged abusive behavior, the report says.

Law enforcement sources told CNN that the pilots donned oxygen masks to keep them from inhaling the pot smoke. The pilots were concerned the smoke would result in them failing drug tests, law enforcement sources told CNN.

After the jet landed at Teterboro, federal agents from CBP, the Drug Enforcement Administration and Immigration and Customs Enforcement said they detected the odor of marijuana, which prompted a search by drug-sniffing dogs, the source said. No drugs were found, a law enforcement source told CNN.

Bieber, 19, a citizen of Canada living in the United States on a work visa, was detained by border agents for several hours of questioning to determine if he was admissible to the United States. Bieber and his entourage of 10 were granted re-entry.

Authorities said both civil and criminal statues prohibit passengers from interfering with the a flight crew in the performance of their duties. Under a civil statute, violators face penalties of $11,000 to $27,500, the FAA said. Under a criminal statute, violators face a maximum of 20 years in prison and fines up to $250,000.

It is not clear how the case came to the FAA's attention. The agency declined to say whether they were alerted by complaints from the pilots, by media reports, or by the investigating CBP officers or others.

In a statement to CNN on Friday, the FAA said it is "looking into allegations" that passengers on the plane interfered with the flight crew, but it did not identify specific passengers.

A representative for the pop star had no comment Friday night.

Bieber has had several encounters with law enforcement authorities in recent months. He was recently arrested in Toronto, accused of assaulting his limousine driver in December.

He also faces charges of DUI, resisting arrest and driving on an expired license after being stopped by police in Miami Beach, Florida, last month.

The Los Angeles County district attorney is considering whether to charge Bieber with felony vandalism on his neighbor's house on January 9, 2014.

 

[pilotmec]

How about offering him a ride in a fighter jet, since he's a "celebrity". Then they could show him how to use the ejection seat and once on the ground issue him a parachute...........sigh! I know, not legal.

 

[Pilot Fighter]

After this guy gets convicted...of something....keep him out of the United States.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

After this guy gets convicted...of something....keep him out of the United States.

I don't know - Canadian clearances are apparently serious business (so say my employer) - is the same true of Canadian nationals entering the United States? (It would seem only fair.)

 

[ChasenSFO]

This reminds me of a story a friend told me in an e-mail group earlier when this topic came up:

When I graduated from High School in 1978 we went to grad night at Disneyland. Immediately after the graduation ceremony in San Mateo, we were bused to SFO where we had two chartered PSA 727's waiting for us to take us down to SoCal. While we were still sitting at the gate in SF people started firing up marijuana cigarettes. (for you young'ens you could smoke regular cigarettes on planes back then) The flight attendants went around taking them away from everyone (I think they smoked them later). Finally they said that we did stop we would not take off. Finally every complied and we took off, but as soon as the No Smoking light went off it all started up again. The flight attendants gave up. There was so much marijuana smoke in the cabin it was like a scene out of a Cheech and Chong movie. While it sounds bad it was no as shocking as it was happening today. PSA's old "Midnight Flyer" flight which were popular with the poor hippy crowd in the late 60's and early 70's were known for people passing joints around on flights. It gave new meaning to PSA's old jingle, "PSA gives you a lift"

Looks like I missed out on some epic times.

 

[BEEF SUPREME]

Well, apparently, now they do:

2-7-2014

Washington (CNN) -- The Federal Aviation Administration said Friday that it is looking into allegations that passengers onboard singer Justin Bieber's charter flight last week interfered with the flight crew.

Under FAA regulations, "No person may assault, threaten, intimidate, or interfere with a crew member in the performance of the crew member's duties aboard an aircraft."

According to a law enforcement sources, Bieber and his father were "extremely abusive verbally" to a flight attendant during a flight on the chartered Gulfstream IV aircraft from Ontario, Canada, to Teterboro Airport in New Jersey last Friday in advance of the Super Bowl.

Justin Bieber and his father refused a pilot's repeated warnings to stop smoking pot on the flight, according to a report by U.S. Customs and Border Protection, which was read to CNN.

The pilots asked the flight attendant to remain in the cockpit to protect her from the alleged abusive behavior, the report says.

Law enforcement sources told CNN that the pilots donned oxygen masks to keep them from inhaling the pot smoke. The pilots were concerned the smoke would result in them failing drug tests, law enforcement sources told CNN.

After the jet landed at Teterboro, federal agents from CBP, the Drug Enforcement Administration and Immigration and Customs Enforcement said they detected the odor of marijuana, which prompted a search by drug-sniffing dogs, the source said. No drugs were found, a law enforcement source told CNN.

Bieber, 19, a citizen of Canada living in the United States on a work visa, was detained by border agents for several hours of questioning to determine if he was admissible to the United States. Bieber and his entourage of 10 were granted re-entry.

Authorities said both civil and criminal statues prohibit passengers from interfering with the a flight crew in the performance of their duties. Under a civil statute, violators face penalties of $11,000 to $27,500, the FAA said. Under a criminal statute, violators face a maximum of 20 years in prison and fines up to $250,000.

It is not clear how the case came to the FAA's attention. The agency declined to say whether they were alerted by complaints from the pilots, by media reports, or by the investigating CBP officers or others.

In a statement to CNN on Friday, the FAA said it is "looking into allegations" that passengers on the plane interfered with the flight crew, but it did not identify specific passengers.

A representative for the pop star had no comment Friday night.

Bieber has had several encounters with law enforcement authorities in recent months. He was recently arrested in Toronto, accused of assaulting his limousine driver in December.

He also faces charges of DUI, resisting arrest and driving on an expired license after being stopped by police in Miami Beach, Florida, last month.

The Los Angeles County district attorney is considering whether to charge Bieber with felony vandalism on his neighbor's house on January 9, 2014.

FA not required for safety. Just eye candy. Not technically a crew member.