Flying High w/Bieber

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Flying High? Exclusive Inside Story on Bieber's 'Pot' Plane


By Richard Esposito

Justin Bieber and his father were “extremely abusive” to a flight attendant as their private jet flew from Canada to New Jersey on Friday, forcing her to take refuge in the cockpit, according to an official report obtained exclusively by NBC News.

According to multiple law enforcement sources, the leased, luxurious Gulfstream IV on which the 19-year-old Canadian pop star, his father and an entourage of 10 friends traveled was so full of marijuana smoke that the pilots were forced to wear oxygen masks.
“The captain of the flight stated that he warned the passengers, including Bieber, on several occasions to stop smoking marijuana,” says the official report of the incident. “The captain also stated he needed to request that the passengers stop their harassing behavior toward the flight attendant and after several warnings asked the flight attendant to stay with him near the cockpit to avoid any further abuse.”

According to multiple sources, the attendant was forced to spend much of the flight near the pilots as the plane travelled from Canada to Teterboro, N.J.
“The flight attendant stated the passengers, including Bieber and his father, Jeremy Bieber,” stated the report, “were extremely abusive verbally and she would not work another flight with them.”
The pilots, despite a pressurized cabin, were forced to wear their oxygen masks during the flight, according to multiple sources, so that they wouldn’t risk inhaling marijuana and failing any subsequent drug test, which would put their licenses at risk.

According to officials, when the plane landed at Teterboro, a suburban airport that caters to the rich and famous and their private aircraft, it was met by DEA and Customs and Border Patrol agents and police. There was still marijuana smoke inside the cabin, according to the report.
Officials decided to question Bieber separately from the other passengers, said the report, because “in past examinations, Bieber had become argumentative and abusive when together with his security team. When interviewed at Teterboro, Bieber admitted smoking marijuana and drinking alcohol, but stated that he did not have any additional marijuana.

According to federal and regional sources, the troubled star, his father, and his entourage, who were headed to the New York City area to attend the Super Bowl and related parties, first drove toward the U.S.-Canadian border in a motor coach. They turned back and flew from Waterloo, Ont. to Teterboro instead. After Bieber’s flight landed Friday, drug-sniffing dogs from Customs and Border Patrol and the New York/New Jersey Port Authority Police Department sat down as they walked around the plane, meaning the dogs were alerting handlers to the possible presence of drugs. Authorities then boarded the jet, which multiple sources said reeked of marijuana. However, no unsmoked weed was found during the search.
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Interior of a Gulfstream IVSP N728LB.

The two drug dogs also alerted handlers to the possible presence of drugs in three pieces of luggage. “One bag was labeled as belonging to Justin Bieber, one was listed as belonging to his personal assistant … and one [was] labeled as belonging to his personal trainer.”
The trainer and the assistant “disavowed knowledge of the contents of the bags and stated they were actually Bieber’s bags, but they were forced to place their names on the bags,” according to the report. No “contraband” was found, however.
No members of the flight crew were willing to file charges against their passengers, so Bieber, his father and his friends were allowed to go on their way.
After the Bieber entourage left, however, two sources said that authorities performed another search of the plane and found empty bags that appeared to have once contained marijuana. None of the items could be linked to Bieber, his father, or their guests. Neither Drug Enforcement Administration officials nor Customs and Border Patrol officials would comment to NBC News. The aviation company that flew the Bieber entourage to New Jersey, Meridian Air Charter, also declined comment.

The incident was the third encounter with law enforcement in recent weeks for Bieber. In late January, he was arrested for alleged drunk driving in Miami after an alleged drag race, and then arrested in Toronto for an alleged assault on a limo driver that occurred in late December.
Bieber had planned to spend Super Bowl weekend at New York City’s Four Seasons hotel, said the report, and depart Monday. “Bieber … stated he would be watching the game from a private suite in METLIFE stadium, but he was unsure who owned the box he would be staying in. He stated that his assistant would probably know.”

On Sunday, the 19-year-old was shunned at the door of the New York City club 1 Oak and turned away from at least four Super Bowl parties, according to the New York Daily News' Confidential column. On Tuesday, Bieber settled a Los Angeles lawsuit with his former bodyguard, who accused the pop star of assaulting him in 2012.

First published February 4 2014, 3:23 PM
 
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This has come up before in the "You're the Captain" forum, but really, what do you do in this situation? It's a Meridian charter, so can the feds come down on the pilots now that this is public? It's obviously clear that they continued a flight knowing that someone was smoking illegal drugs in the back.

It's easy to play armchair, but I want to say if it was me up there, and the plane was operating under charter, I'm landing that thing as soon as he refused to put out the weed and started harrasing the FA.
 
This has come up before in the "You're the Captain" forum, but really, what do you do in this situation? It's a Meridian charter, so can the feds come down on the pilots now that this is public? It's obviously clear that they continued a flight knowing that someone was smoking illegal drugs in the back.

It's easy to play armchair, but I want to say if it was me up there, and the plane was operating under charter, I'm landing that thing as soon as he refused to put out the weed and started harrasing the FA.

I'd just say that I was on the oxygen the entire flight because I feel better not breathing in beibs odor.
 
It's obviously clear that they continued a flight knowing that someone was smoking illegal drugs in the back.

Maybe he had an Rx for it? I guess the only way to know for sure would be to have a laboratory test it. Or call the Feds, which is what it sounds like what they did. I think the crew is fine, at least with the FAA. But probably out of a job, since rich folks generally don't retain the services of those that call the cops on them.
 
This has come up before in the "You're the Captain" forum, but really, what do you do in this situation? It's a Meridian charter, so can the feds come down on the pilots now that this is public? It's obviously clear that they continued a flight knowing that someone was smoking illegal drugs in the back.

It's easy to play armchair, but I want to say if it was me up there, and the plane was operating under charter, I'm landing that thing as soon as he refused to put out the weed and started harrasing the FA.

Serious question: How hard would it be to not turn around and land at the departure airport? Or would continuing to TEB have been the better call to allow time for the Feds to show up upon arrival? My initial thought would be to land somewhere and kick the offending pax off the airplane but then again, what do I know?
 
Serious question: How hard would it be to not turn around and land at the departure airport? Or would continuing to TEB have been the better call to allow time for the Feds to show up upon arrival? My initial thought would be to land somewhere and kick the offending pax off the airplane but then again, what do I know?
And then your company probably wouldn't get paid and you would surely be out of a job. It's easy to sit here in hindsight and try and play "guess the right course of action" but without all the facts and just by what we can read here, I'd say the pilots did the right thing. Complete the flight, call the Feds.
 
I hope that this prompts "if-then" discussions between charter ops and their pilots, especially at outfits who cater to high mx clients like this.

Crewmembers shouldn't have to put up with this crap, should be given the authority to land when necessary and bring in LEO, file a complaint and give a statement as a witness, and be protected from retribution.
 
Federal Aviation Regulations Part 135, Section 135.120: “No person may assault, threaten, intimidate, or interfere with a crewmember in performance of the crewmember’s duties aboard an aircraft being operated under this part.”
 
You mean a G550 can't fly for 8 hours at FL450+ and land with a completely full O2 tank?!

In the normal position, it was my understanding the the EROS mask uses normal atmospheric air mixed with small amounts of oxygen based on cabin altitude. Only when the cabin altitude climbs or the pilot selects 100% does the oxygen start being used at 100%. In this scenario, a pilot could be wearing the mask above FL350 in the "N" position and use very little oxygen from the bottle.
 
Maybe he had an Rx for it? I guess the only way to know for sure would be to have a laboratory test it. Or call the Feds, which is what it sounds like what they did. I think the crew is fine, at least with the FAA. But probably out of a job, since rich folks generally don't retain the services of those that call the cops on them.

Actually I'd be amazed if the company did anything but commend the crew. The confidentiality clause goes out the window in a situation like this. If the crew decided to do a few news interviews however...
 
Actually I'd be amazed if the company did anything but commend the crew. The confidentiality clause goes out the window in a situation like this. If the crew decided to do a few news interviews however...

Umm, what do they expect ferrying rock stars*** around? Of course they are on drugs. Of course they are drunk. Of course they behave like idiots. But they are also paying lots and lots of money to stay out of the evening news / jail.

(***okay, real rock stars would be on way better drugs, and have naked groupies instead of stoned teenagers in tow... )
 
Umm, what do they expect ferrying rock stars*** around? Of course they are on drugs. Of course they are drunk. Of course they behave like idiots. But they are also paying lots and lots of money to stay out of the evening news / jail.

(***okay, real rock stars would be on way better drugs, and have naked groupies instead of stoned teenagers in tow... )
So because they are rock stars, they get a free pass on bringing it on board?
 
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