Flying... After a crash..

I was given a week off, then back in the saddle.
Was not my fault, and no, no story time :) .
Like mentioned earlier, it will "tune you up a bit".
 
AAPalmTree said:
Fixed wing. ;)
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OK, Pilots are pilots, good or bad. I like the ones that don't feel like they know everything. And I think you don't know what you're talking about, that being said I don't care about a word that comes out of your mouth as it's probably more of a hinderance to present a fully functional jet to a properly trained flight crew. YMMV.
 
knot4u said:
OK, Pilots are pilots, good or bad. I like the ones that don't feel like they know everything. And I think you don't know what you're talking about, that being said I don't care about a word that comes out of your mouth as it's probably more of a hinderance to present a fully functional jet to a properly trained flight crew. YMMV.
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Wow. Apparently you didn't get the scarcasm. I have spent a lot of time in and around helicopters. I still enjoy flying the 206 (don't fly it as often as I'd like). Not much in the Airbus like autos and confined area ops. I have a sibling who has been flying helos for 20+ years. I went the fixed wing route because it's tough (if not impossible) to make as good of a living flying helos.
Wow....Apologies if you were offended.

I will DEFINITELY keep the best helicopter joke in the bag.
 
Back on topic, I'm interested in the role the faasteam plays in mentoring pilots, more incidents, near misses than accidents but their safety counselors must have some experiences. I'd love to work out what the pilot thought and how/why they reacted how they did...
 
AAPalmTree said:
Wow. Apparently you didn't get the scarcasm. I have spent a lot of time in and around helicopters. I still enjoy flying the 206 (don't fly it as often as I'd like). Not much in the Airbus like autos and confined area ops. I have a sibling who has been flying helos for 20+ years. I went the fixed wing route because it's tough (if not impossible) to make as good of a living flying helos.
Wow....Apologies if you were offended.

I will DEFINITELY keep the best helicopter joke in the bag.
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My apologies, my nerves are a bit frayed today. Opinions are wide ranging when the conversation rolls around to rotary wing, Helicopters are safe.
 
I didn't bend metal but had an alternator failure while IMC in a 172; it was a bit hairy as I was in a solid, thick layer that spanned about 250 miles in any direction. I landed safe after 30 minutes of flight. Was back flying a few days later.

THEN, I made a long landing to a short airfield once. Bent the spinner but had the foresight to shut off the engine before impact. I was back up flying before the plane was. I was up as soon as the club would let me have access to another airplane.

I understand the reluctance, especially if you've had a mechanical failure and you're climbing back into the SAME aircraft. I was good friends with a guy in the Army that crashed. He was fresh out of flight school and PNF, they were under night vision goggles and slammed into the ground. No mechanical issue and only minor injuries between the three on board. He never flew again because he was unable to get back in the saddle (mentally).

Don't let your imagination of what COULD happen keep you from gaining a grasp on what IS happening. Don't misunderstand me, you should always keep a safe landing area in mind, but don't let it eat you up.

Good luck to you and be safe.
 
One total in my log book, an engine fire in a Cherokee 6, 1978. Landed on a paved runway but the fire had already done a lot of damage. Got back into GA that day when the FBO picked us up, had to get home.

Flew back the next day with the FBO owner and a mechanic to meet the FAA and insurance adjuster.

We climbed out of the aircraft, while we shook hands the insurance adjuster said; This ones is a total.

I kept telling them they weren't fix it and fly it home.
 
bucksmith said:
IO360's still make me a bit cross...ntsb put mine on a bench, eliminating all possibilities rear of the firewall ;), ran it up a few times and had it quit on them too. They sent everything to be inspected, it all came back good. Then they closed the case. I asked if they were concerned about it happening again, they said they it would be reopened if it did...Caused me to be a bit distrustful of the engine, never really got closure.
I look at it like getting my engine failure out of the way. I was a new cfi when it happened and turned it into a teaching tool. I think that helped a lot with any possible onset of trust issues. (With flying in general)
Have you done a write up on your case? Maybe try one of those "I learned about flying from that"? If you shared it and spoke about what you experienced, it could help purge the emotional memory and highlight the more clinical aspect of it...
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I'd really enjoy and would find it hugely beneficial to read something you put together regarding that type of an incident. Probably one of my biggest fears.
 
bucksmith said:
IO360's still make me a bit cross...ntsb put mine on a bench, eliminating all possibilities rear of the firewall ;), ran it up a few times and had it quit on them too. They sent everything to be inspected, it all came back good. Then they closed the case. I asked if they were concerned about it happening again, they said they it would be reopened if it did...Caused me to be a bit distrustful of the engine, never really got closure.
I look at it like getting my engine failure out of the way. I was a new cfi when it happened and turned it into a teaching tool. I think that helped a lot with any possible onset of trust issues. (With flying in general)
Have you done a write up on your case? Maybe try one of those "I learned about flying from that"? If you shared it and spoke about what you experienced, it could help purge the emotional memory and highlight the more clinical aspect of it...
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Continental or Lycoming IO360?
 
I'm not smart or very talented, but extremely lucky-as stupid- err student pilot I got carb icing at night off airport.
renters insurance paid for aircraft and TV antennae of house I never hit. If you're gonna crash, hit the center of 3 trees.
Fuel poured over me til some guys ripped the door open- I wasn't
3 feet off the ground.
I went on flying for a few years
( see opening sentence).
 
Tram said:
From 300' off the ground? ;)
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I dunno... there was a certain ATP DE that used to demonstrate a 180 degree turn with a loss of 50 feet of altitude. Thankfully he normally demonstrated it above 300 feet though.

Probably a wise move to keep going straight though.
 
BobDDuck said:
I dunno... there was a certain ATP DE that used to demonstrate a 180 degree turn with a loss of 50 feet of altitude. Thankfully he normally demonstrated it above 300 feet though.

Probably a wise move to keep going straight though.
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The WTF time spent in accepting your new condition usually negates a turn-back. I remember doing the 300 ft turn in the PC-12 sim with good prep and making it, but would never expect it to work in the real world.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Rod Machado had an article on this very topic a while ago, and his advice was to immediately go up with an instructor. Don't prolong your absence from the cockpit. Then it just gets worse. Go with an instructor until you feel comfortable.
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That's his advice for literally everything.
 
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