Fired!

WACO...good post.


Jhugz you did everything right IMO. Working for free is definitely not cool in my book in the majority of circumstances. You also did the right thing in not taking off without deicing. The FAA is really cracking down on FROST and polishing it smooth is no longer acceptable on most aircraft.

You are probably right that your boss was just looking for a reason to get rid of someone that stands up for themselves. If he had to give in and pay you for your time he probably feared others would follow your lead.

Make a plan of attack to find a new job and ask yourself everyday: What can I do today to find a job. It may take some time but you will find something.

Good luck.
 
Okay jhugz, you got me, I apologize. The possibility that your boss was merely a jerk occurred to me before I wrote, but I figured he was just a normal guy trying to hold his company together. I gave him the benefit of the doubt, my mistake.

If he is as you described, you're well rid of him. I got fired by a jerk like that when I was younger and the result was a much better job than I would have had if he hadn't fired me.

And again, good luck.
 
gliderboy said:
Okay jhugz, you got me, I apologize. The possibility that your boss was merely a jerk occurred to me before I wrote, but I figured he was just a normal guy trying to hold his company together. I gave him the benefit of the doubt, my mistake.
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For future reference, give the long time member of JC the benefit of the doubt vs. "complete unknown buisness owner.

I too worked for a millionaire retired airline pilot/flight school owner who required me to work for free. During this time I could barely afford to buy groceries for my 2 kids, but I had to work the front desk for no pay, even on my day off. By far these jerks are the rule, not the exception.

If he is as you described, you're well rid of him. I got fired by a jerk like that when I was younger and the result was a much better job than I would have had if he hadn't fired me.
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Which is EXACTLY what will happen to Juhgz.

There are about 100 of us who will walk his resume into our boss.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
Bad advice in this business. Resigning is almost always a better option, because PRIA ensures that future employers get your employment history, including the reason for separation.
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In addition to only involving 121/135, PRIA covers training records. You can literally be a lazy jerk, but tube all of your PC's, ace your orals and never have a problem in training and nothing bad will show up in a PRIA request. The goal of PRIA is ensure transparency in the training environment. In other words, if a poorly performing pilot jumps from airline to airline and eventually balls one up, the FAA can now say "Look, you have their training history right here in your PRIA request!!!"
 
I never had my 'You were too sick this year' letter I got at Mesa in my PRIA, but that was probably because Mesa knew that such a thing might get them in trouble if the FAA knew they were sending them out.
 
Truly sorry to hear of your misfortune at this place.
But: If this really was a $1200/month CFI gig, I would not let it get you down too much. There are others, and you will soon see something on the horizon.
Good luck. You wont need it because of your past, you'll need it for this crappy economy.
If they are going to say not fired, at the next place just say you left because $1200 month was untenable.
 
ATN_Pilot said:
That's incorrect. Any sort of disciplinary action related to your duties as a pilot shows up in a PRIA report. It's not just training.
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No, that's incorrect. (about me being incorrect) :D My statement wasn't all inclusive. I was mostly referring to the reason PRIA was enacted. It doesn't include stuff like "that jerk spilled special sauce all over my lap when he was taking the garbage out of my office on 5/9/08." PRIA is intended to get the word out about pilots who have difficulties with pilot-related stuff. It's not intended to be a gabby gouge for people to talk smack about others. In fact, you're not supposed to do that, anyway. When someone calls for a reference, unless you want a huge legal mess, you would probably want to say that they are not welcome back and leave it at that.
 
gliderboy said:
Definitely not a troll, and I may, or may not, be out of line. But that has always been my attitude towards work and it has served me very well over the years, as I have enjoyed a very interesting and financially rewarding life.
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We'll see how your signature works out when you're judged and realized Hell ain't as free as you think it is....

jhugz, sorry to hear about that man, sounds like you're getting the shaft. Push on and drive (fly) forward...better things out there for ya!
 
haitti made a pact with the devil.

jhugz, keep your head up. New work will come your way eventually. But get on the ball with unemployment ASAP.
 
falconvalley said:
No, that's incorrect. (about me being incorrect) :D My statement wasn't all inclusive. I was mostly referring to the reason PRIA was enacted. It doesn't include stuff like "that jerk spilled special sauce all over my lap when he was taking the garbage out of my office on 5/9/08." PRIA is intended to get the word out about pilots who have difficulties with pilot-related stuff. It's not intended to be a gabby gouge for people to talk smack about others. In fact, you're not supposed to do that, anyway. When someone calls for a reference, unless you want a huge legal mess, you would probably want to say that they are not welcome back and leave it at that.
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However.... the reason it was enacted may be different than the airlines are treating it. FWIW - I requested PRIAs at my old job, and I was also the PRIA agent for pilots who had moved on. I wasn't restricted on what was given back to the PRIA request. However, we chose to limit it our "required 135 pilot records" folder. I have known folks whose PRIAs came back with damaging enough "non pilot" things that they weren't hireable.
 
cencal83406 said:
However.... the reason it was enacted may be different than the airlines are treating it. FWIW - I requested PRIAs at my old job, and I was also the PRIA agent for pilots who had moved on. I wasn't restricted on what was given back to the PRIA request. However, we chose to limit it our "required 135 pilot records" folder. I have known folks whose PRIAs came back with damaging enough "non pilot" things that they weren't hireable.
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The law states what should be included in a PRIA request-- including anything else just opens you up to liability, I would think.
 
SpiraMirabilis said:
The law states what should be included in a PRIA request-- including anything else just opens you up to liability, I would think.
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True - when I did the requests, I just followed the PRIA literature in what they wanted. However, another company did put "non-pilot" stuff in there, preventing someone from getting a job at the place I'm at now.
 
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