Ferry Flights

Joshua Burke said:
I apologize if I offended you.
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I think you missed the point.
People, well at the very least people on this website generally don't take a great view of undercutting people's livelihood. You're a professional pilot right? I encourage you to take the professional part to heart.
 
z987k said:
I think you missed the point.
People, well at the very least people on this website generally don't take a great view of undercutting people's livelihood. You're a professional pilot right? I encourage you to take the professional part to heart.
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I encourage a little relaxation, this is my second post just looking for some help building time. I guess I have some learning to do with regards to my posts and the clarity of them.
 
Joshua Burke said:
I encourage a little relaxation, this is my second post just looking for some help building time. I guess I have some learning to do with regards to my posts and the clarity of them.
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And a pilot, yes, but I feel the road to a true professional pilot is what I am still striving to achieve. This only comes with time.
 
Joshua Burke said:
I'm aware. I pretty much dug myself into a hole on this one.
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Tips on how to be a professional pilot

#1 Do not fly for free
#2 Do not under cut other pilots just to get flight time
#3 Do not abuse pass privileges because you can ruin it for all of us.

Ferry flying is a great way to build flight time. The problem is that there are way too many low timers who will use their daddy's pass privileges to rack up free flight time. Meanwhile I demand that the owner buy me an airline ticket and charge 300/day for singles and 400/day for twins or turboprops, plus all expenses.

Don't worry too much, you're new and learning the ropes. Take the lesson and move on.
 
Joshua Burke said:
And for what it's worth I'm not looking to do it for the money, just looking to get some night time.
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Uh, negative ghost rider. The other reasons were already mentioned but, I'll include a new perspective - in my experience night ferry flights are not a great idea. It sounds like you are looking are light singles and twins, which means unfamiliar airplane over unfamiliar terrain. Not exactly a good place to be. The ferrying I have done was almost always daytime, plus most of the airplanes I've ferried we're day VFR only anyway. This is just one method of mitigating risks.

Don't fly for free or undercut another pilot.

Don't jeopardize your non-rev agreement either.

Good luck.
 
CFI A&P said:
Uh, negative ghost rider. The other reasons were already mentioned but, I'll include a new perspective
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I'll add a third perspective: the FBOs that are likely to be friendly to a ferry pilot, cost-effective for the customer, and more knowledgable should something break are universally all closed at night. It's become a ferry-flight watch item for me to scan FBO closing times and to plan to end the day at a bigger class D or C field. I've had to jump fences at little airfields at the end of the day...not fun after a long day.
 
Yeah....you are 3 for 3 here...using CASS to get to ferry jobs, doing it for the flight time (I wouldn't trust anyone that would want to ferry my airplane for free anyway. It's a lot of work) and wanting to ferry at night are all pretty bad ideas. I've had a whole bunch of issues come up on ferry trips that ended up being pretty minor events but would have been a totally different story if it were night time.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
I think that's a little silly myself, as the journeys I take occasionally involve some rather screwed, disjoint routings.

But, yeah. Don't do it.
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Well then you'd have nothing to worry about. WHen the PassTravel department calls you and asks some questions about your routings, you could easily explain them, and problem solved.

What I'm talking about it, for example a guy here in Tulsa who ferries planes on the side and has a job at American. One way trips every week from tulsa to some far off place with no return trip? That is what raises red flags... how he has managed to do it for so long is beyond me.
 
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