Thank you, watched the video and that helped calm most of my reservations on that topic.Those with scope concerns I would encourage listening today's session #3 of the Q&A. I can't imagine getting anything more from the company on that section during this round of bargaining.
I think if we had an actual form like the IPA B&G we could solve alot of our unity issues. Facebook is 90% by a dozen or so users and they think they speak for a majority of the crew members. Any dissent to that crowd is met with vile that is frankly embarrassing how fellow employees are treated. Maybe all airlines are like this but man we come across like we are a bunch of spoiled children.Thank you, watched the video and that helped calm most of my reservations on that topic.
A little tired of the jetflyers yelling.
Maybe anecdotal, but during negotiations there were like 5-10 very vocal no-voters on our internal forum (non-company but certainly not private). They were by far the most active for those few months. Passed by like 85% or something. It ain't perfect but was a giant leap in the right direction.I think if we had an actual form like the IPA B&G we could solve alot of our unity issues. Facebook is 90% by a dozen or so users and they think they speak for a majority of the crew members. Any dissent to that crowd is met with vile that is frankly embarrassing how fellow employees are treated. Maybe all airlines are like this but man we come across like we are a bunch of spoiled children.
There is a Facebook group that is supposedly closed to just active and retired seniority list. It probably has <50% of the group on it and is moderated by someone who admits in the past he doesn't care about the union or even knows who his representative is. There are alot of people that purged Facebook so that leaves many out. Then there are numerous fractions that have massive echo chamber group texts. Which I've gathered mostly just • post about the other group texts. Union committee and representatives are discouraged from posting on the Facebook group so you're left with the angry masses dreaming up unchecked conspiracies and rumors with little fact checking.I assumed Purple had a forum like the B and G. Even though I'm 5 years retired I still watch the forum and am welcomed to post. We even have a retiree section. It's not without it's share of guys yelling at each other like little children and it's unmoderated. It's private, only for IPA guys, but it's widely understood management has access.
This just sounds like societyThere is a Facebook group that is supposedly closed to just active and retired seniority list. It probably has <50% of the group on it and is moderated by someone who admits in the past he doesn't care about the union or even knows who his representative is. There are alot of people that purged Facebook so that leaves many out. Then there are numerous fractions that have massive echo chamber group texts. Which I've gathered mostly just • post about the other group texts. Union committee and representatives are discouraged from posting on the Facebook group so you're left with the angry masses dreaming up unchecked conspiracies and rumors with little fact checking.
It would hilarious if it wasn't so sad. Our group only really shines when someone is in need. We rally pretty hard and contribute to causes, well except our own.