Factual NTSB Report from Ben's Crash

Reading this makes me feel sick.

When I was training for my initial CFI in the Piper Arrow I had an engine failure/loss of power myself. I had just taken off and was on a downwind departure when my engine went to idle. I automatically went through the memory items, Mags, Mixture, Throttle, Fuel. I switched tanks. Nothing I did restored power. I turned towards the runway and as I crossed the airport fence the engine finally quit. I landed on the runway OK, and made a turn off to a taxiway.

I guess my point is all my training kicked in and I was on "automatic mode". Would being hopped up on OTC cold medicine degrade my skills in either piloting the airplane or going through the emergency memory items? I guess that is something that affects each of us differently, and we probably can't say how it affected Ben either. I guess it would be safer to not fly in that circumstance.

In my case, it turns out the Arrow had a broken throttle cable. I was lucky I was near the airport.
 
MikeD, Jtrain,

Thanks for the info, guys!


Oh, by the way Mike, our 72 hour reports have gone away. They've been replaced by a "Preliminary" report also, and the time frame has changed from 72 hours down to 8 or 24 depending on whether the mishap was a ground/weapons category or an aviation category. But I get the concept. Thanks!
 
MikeD, Jtrain,

Thanks for the info, guys!


Oh, by the way Mike, our 72 hour reports have gone away. They've been replaced by a "Preliminary" report also, and the time frame has changed from 72 hours down to 8 or 24 depending on whether the mishap was a ground/weapons category or an aviation category. But I get the concept. Thanks!

Yeah, they're gone too here; but I still reference them that way as old school. You working in field investigation as a PM or IO?
 
Yeah, they're gone too here; but I still reference them that way as old school. You working in field investigation as a PM or IO?
I've been the flight safety guy at our wing for about the past two, two and a half years. So I've been the IO on a bunch of class E's and C's, and the occasional B. No class A's yet. About 150, maybe 175 minor mishaps... nothing with serious injuries or deaths yet.
 
I've been the flight safety guy at our wing for about the past two, two and a half years. So I've been the IO on a bunch of class E's and C's, and the occasional B. No class A's yet. About 150, maybe 175 minor mishaps... nothing with serious injuries or deaths yet.

Consider yourself lucky, in the sense that nothing big has happened to this point, knock on wood. Aside from the accident itself, the As can become alot of work with managing a team of people, varying in size with the complexity of the occurance.
 
Consider yourself lucky, in the sense that nothing big has happened to this point, knock on wood. Aside from the accident itself, the As can become alot of work with managing a team of people, varying in size with the complexity of the occurance.
Got that right. We've sent off several Board Pres's and IO's in the last couple of years. Looks like a LOT of work.
 
okay after reading the NTSB report pinned on top, he made a mistake of not checking the tanks one last time?
 
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