dustoff17
Still trying to reach the Top Shelf
Defamation? Or did I miss Airbus getting hit with a ball peen hammer here?
EgyptAir 804 Missing
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Big Black Guy
A Life Aloft
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Scanning around Egyptian and Greek news sources, there just is little known of a factual nature that is being released there. There was a brief statement here:
"Aircraft debris was found in the southern Mediterranean by Greek authorities searching for a missing EgyptAir aircraft which vanished from radar screens early Thursday, Greek state tv reported.
Earlier, Greek officials said pieces of plastic were found in the sea some 230 miles south of the island of Crete, and two life vests which appeared to be from an aircraft." And "off the southeastern island of Karpathos, on Thursday. Greek defense sources said that the red and white objects were spotted close to an area where a transponder signal was emitted earlier."
Nothing confirmed though.
From Greece:
"Greece has deployed its Air Force and Navy in efforts to help the Egyptian military locate a missing EgyptAir plane that was carrying 66 people on board. A tweet on the airline’s official account said that flight MS804 left Paris at 11:09 pm (2109 GMT), “heading to Cairo (and) has disappeared from radar.”
The airline also released statements via twitter that the last contact with the aircraft was at 2:45 am Cairo time (0045 GMT), as the plane entered Egyptian airspace at an altitude of 37,000 feet (11,000 meters), and that there was no distress call made by the crew. EgyptAir said that on board the Airbus A320 were 56 passengers, including a little boy and two babies, seven crew members and three security men.
The Egyptian military has focused their search and rescue teams on a sea area north of the Egyptian coast. A source in the Greek General Staff said that in efforts to help find flight MS804, Greece’s Air Force has deployed their C-130 Hercules which is conducting search efforts in the region in cooperation with other aircraft participating in the search and rescue operation.
Also, they have deployed a Naval frigate to help in the search, as well as two helicopters that are on standby on the island of Karpathos. Further, he stated that the military does not have any information on the whereabouts of the passenger jet. “We only have information from the flight controllers from Greece and Egypt that the plane’s signal was lost when it was 130 miles away from Karpathos.”
Very saddening to see photos of families and friends of the pax at CAI. Heartbreaking. I hope people are sending some prayers, positive thoughts/energy (whatever you believe in) to them.
We have one of our Orions based in Italy, searching now as well.
Horrible circumstances. I hope some progress is made sooner rather than later.
"Aircraft debris was found in the southern Mediterranean by Greek authorities searching for a missing EgyptAir aircraft which vanished from radar screens early Thursday, Greek state tv reported.
Earlier, Greek officials said pieces of plastic were found in the sea some 230 miles south of the island of Crete, and two life vests which appeared to be from an aircraft." And "off the southeastern island of Karpathos, on Thursday. Greek defense sources said that the red and white objects were spotted close to an area where a transponder signal was emitted earlier."
Nothing confirmed though.
From Greece:
"Greece has deployed its Air Force and Navy in efforts to help the Egyptian military locate a missing EgyptAir plane that was carrying 66 people on board. A tweet on the airline’s official account said that flight MS804 left Paris at 11:09 pm (2109 GMT), “heading to Cairo (and) has disappeared from radar.”
The airline also released statements via twitter that the last contact with the aircraft was at 2:45 am Cairo time (0045 GMT), as the plane entered Egyptian airspace at an altitude of 37,000 feet (11,000 meters), and that there was no distress call made by the crew. EgyptAir said that on board the Airbus A320 were 56 passengers, including a little boy and two babies, seven crew members and three security men.
The Egyptian military has focused their search and rescue teams on a sea area north of the Egyptian coast. A source in the Greek General Staff said that in efforts to help find flight MS804, Greece’s Air Force has deployed their C-130 Hercules which is conducting search efforts in the region in cooperation with other aircraft participating in the search and rescue operation.
Also, they have deployed a Naval frigate to help in the search, as well as two helicopters that are on standby on the island of Karpathos. Further, he stated that the military does not have any information on the whereabouts of the passenger jet. “We only have information from the flight controllers from Greece and Egypt that the plane’s signal was lost when it was 130 miles away from Karpathos.”
Very saddening to see photos of families and friends of the pax at CAI. Heartbreaking. I hope people are sending some prayers, positive thoughts/energy (whatever you believe in) to them.
We have one of our Orions based in Italy, searching now as well.
Horrible circumstances. I hope some progress is made sooner rather than later.
ScorpionStinger
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Not looking good for Boeing airframe this year... From wiki search.
- January 8 - West Air Sweden Flight 294, a Bombardier CRJ200 cargo freighter, crashes while in cruise near Akkajaure in Sweden. Both crew members on board are killed.
- February 2 - Daallo Airlines Flight 159, an Airbus A321, suffers an explosion shortly after taking off from Aden Adde International Airport, Somalia. Two people are injured and one, the suspected suicide bomber, is killed after falling from the aircraft.
- February 24 - Tara Air Flight 193, a Viking Air-built DHC-6 Twin Otter, flies into a storm and crashes into a mountain side at Dana, Myagdi district, Nepal killing all 23 on board.
- March 19 - Flydubai Flight 981, a Boeing 737-800, crashes while landing at Rostov-on-Don, Russia, in poor weather. All 62 people on board are killed.
- March 29 - EgyptAir Flight 181, an Airbus A320, is hijacked and forcefully diverted toLarnaca International Airport, Cyprus. All passengers and crew are released unharmed.
- April 4 - Batik Air Flight 7703, a Boeing 737-800, collides with an ATR 42 on the runway at Halim Perdanakusma Airport in Jakarta. Both aircraft are substantially damaged.
- April 13 - In the 2016 Sunbird Aviation crash, a Britten-Norman Islander crashes short of the runway while landing at Kiunga, Papua New Guinea. All 12 people on board are killed.
- April 29 - In the 2016 Turøy helicopter crash, a Eurocopter EC225L Super Pumahelicopter, crashed near Turøy, an island off of Norway. All 13 passengers and crew on board were killed.
- May 19 - EgyptAir Flight 804, an Airbus A320, disappears from radar over the easternMediterranean Sea. There were 56 passengers and 10 crew on board, with all presumed dead.
killbilly
Vocals, Lyrics, Triangle, Washboard, Kittens
What? 2 of 9?
ScorpionStinger
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CoffeeIcePapers
Well-Hung Member
That is why the apology must be directed to the mustache. There is no doubt who is in control.
ScorpionStinger
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RIP to the victims and condolences to the family.
A lot of terror evil barbarian attacks lately. I do hope TSA & Congress do not begin overreacting.
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A lot of terror evil barbarian attacks lately. I do hope TSA & Congress do not begin overreacting.
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deadstick
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Now you've done it. And for the record, his meth stash should be the least of your concerns.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/richard-quest-cnn-reporte_n_97466.html
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killbilly
Vocals, Lyrics, Triangle, Washboard, Kittens
I still don't understand how what you posted is equivalent to "bad for Boeing?"
ChasenSFO
hen teaser
Can we quit all this Airbus vs. Boeing crap? I get it with the foamers on airliners.net and the like, but most of you guys are pilots. You should know better. Aircraft themselves have never been more safe and reliable. Stuff happens. Is it Boeings fault when a training captain watches a guy on IOE plow a 777 into a seawall? Is it the fault of Airbus when a bomb goes off in an A321? Ridiculous. The only statistic I'd like to see is how many accidents were the fault of an engineering defect. Not poor piloting, pilot training, mx, optical illusions, terrorism, ect. When people start saying "Since the late 60s, Boeing has killed X people on the 737 where as the Airbus has only killed X people since introduction", they might as well be a Fox news anchor as far as I'm concerned.
Ok, where is that "ignore" function again?OT: But (sorry he may be the nicest guy in the world) this guy has the worst mustache I have ever seen.
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Mike Wise
#NewSchool
From what I understand, and I'll reference the pages and quote directly from the book "Fly by wire" later (great read btw), in normal law with the A/P disconnected the aircraft will have a maximum bank angle, roll rate, pitch rate and rate of decent that will prevent the aircraft from exceeding its maximum of 2.7 G's (I think its 2.7). The fly by wire system will let you roll/pitch etc up until these limits before taking over. I'm not sure of any fail safe however that would take action if the aircraft was on its way to a CFIT situation with the A/P on or off. (IE, the auto pilot taking over and preventing a hard smack down into the surface.)
This is real sad and becoming too common over on that side of the world.
Mike Wise
#NewSchool
Preach brother..
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Someone needs to give Erin Burnette on CNN a valium. She's not only Out Front, she'll reach out of your TV screen and choke you if you don't change the channel in time.
TrustMeI'maPilot
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I turned on CNN this morning for a minute to see if there was an update. It was just in time for the host to ask a "former military pilot" what he thought the left and right turns meant. He said it sounded to him like a flat spin. I turned the TV back off.
Screaming_Emu
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You'll notice with pilots that whatever they happen to be flying at the time is suddenly the best thing since sliced bread.
Unless they fly the CRJ-200, apparently
Avgirl
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