tiredofshoveling
Well-Known Member
I passed ATP's Jet Course. The "course" consisted of memorizing about half a dozen profiles and flows and parroting them in the ftd. The ftd was cool though. A bunch of military trainers operate the simulators and some current younger pilots and ex-pilots. Select the later times if you go to the school to avoid the military guys. They treat you like an enlistee not a paying customer. DO NOT pay for the school. Only go if you are a career student and when u have memorized the flows and profiles from the binder they send. Basically ignore the system portion of the binder as you are not tested on it in any way. I completed my ratings through both commercials and opted out of CFI "school". People were surprised I opted out. I think I would have made it but I decided to mitigate against that risk. ATP will not work with you if you are having problems.
I received 5 hours of training for my commercial multi-engine and 4 hours for my single engine commercial. I was lucky to pass the single engine as I hadn't flown a cessna in like 6 months. You will receive 5 hours for your MEI and 2 for you CII. You will have 7 hours to complete your single commercial and CFI together. Total dual given was about 40 hours 50 if you attend CFI school.
For CFI "school" be advised you will arrive on a sunday and and checkrides will be the following week. So one week to study, with 2 flights in there. Most people do pass eventually but the bust rate is extremely high and checkrides are 500 bucks. Not really proper preparation in my opinion. Las Vegas is a wreck.
I'd like to say that ATP is not the place to go for your flight training. My experience was generally negative, although I did better than many others. I had one bust on my instrument rating which could easily have been avoided if I had had a proper brief on the checkride. And if had my flights slightly more spaced out I may have done better. For the money you spend you are treated like complete dirt. There is an unecessary lack of attention given to students who undoutedly will struggle in some area. There is no ground. I made myself into a pilot of the seminole in the simulator at night. Without that I wouldn't have made it. I'll be gettin my CFI's at another school, where the pace is sane and you get some ground. I really didn't need much ground just someone to refer to when I was confused on a point. I'd be happy to speak with anyone regarding my experiences.
If you insist on attending go to a small location, and select the 10 month option if you can. Visit the location. Get a couple of students on the side and talk to them about the location, there are sometimes problems like lack of instructors etc. Try to go to an established location that is small.
ATP is particularly hard on younger students who are maybe not prepared or properly prepped for the pace of the program. Exercise your options. Many people, who are "washed out", I feel are too embarrassed to post here or too uninterested. Nearly all the students I talked with agreed with my opinion by the end of their training if not right away. Don't let ATP screw you. I met some excellent people though, nothing to do with ATP.
TOS
I received 5 hours of training for my commercial multi-engine and 4 hours for my single engine commercial. I was lucky to pass the single engine as I hadn't flown a cessna in like 6 months. You will receive 5 hours for your MEI and 2 for you CII. You will have 7 hours to complete your single commercial and CFI together. Total dual given was about 40 hours 50 if you attend CFI school.
For CFI "school" be advised you will arrive on a sunday and and checkrides will be the following week. So one week to study, with 2 flights in there. Most people do pass eventually but the bust rate is extremely high and checkrides are 500 bucks. Not really proper preparation in my opinion. Las Vegas is a wreck.
I'd like to say that ATP is not the place to go for your flight training. My experience was generally negative, although I did better than many others. I had one bust on my instrument rating which could easily have been avoided if I had had a proper brief on the checkride. And if had my flights slightly more spaced out I may have done better. For the money you spend you are treated like complete dirt. There is an unecessary lack of attention given to students who undoutedly will struggle in some area. There is no ground. I made myself into a pilot of the seminole in the simulator at night. Without that I wouldn't have made it. I'll be gettin my CFI's at another school, where the pace is sane and you get some ground. I really didn't need much ground just someone to refer to when I was confused on a point. I'd be happy to speak with anyone regarding my experiences.
If you insist on attending go to a small location, and select the 10 month option if you can. Visit the location. Get a couple of students on the side and talk to them about the location, there are sometimes problems like lack of instructors etc. Try to go to an established location that is small.
ATP is particularly hard on younger students who are maybe not prepared or properly prepped for the pace of the program. Exercise your options. Many people, who are "washed out", I feel are too embarrassed to post here or too uninterested. Nearly all the students I talked with agreed with my opinion by the end of their training if not right away. Don't let ATP screw you. I met some excellent people though, nothing to do with ATP.
TOS