DeltaWest - Flt 188

Everything in ASAP is consensus-based, so the ERC strives to reach a point where everyone can agree. If they can't, then the FAA ERC representative makes a determination as to how to proceed with the report.
 
Orange Anchor said:
Any of the three parties can elect to not have the event in the ASAP. Yes, it appears the FAA jumped the gun but had the ERC met, it is evident the FAA intended to revoke the licenses based on their interpretation of the pilots willfully neglecting to monitor the airplane.

FROM REPORTS THUS FAR, the crew seems to have embarrassed themselves, their company but worse the FAA and just after the new FAA big dog went on a tear about professionalism. And we know that in a bureaucracy, for every action there is an unequal and opposite over-reaction.
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It didn't help that these two guys involved were speaking publically either.
 
Steve, was flying all day, where all your questions answered?

Furthermore ASAP is a GREAT program and your group might find it beneficial. I know NetJets has a ASAP Program. Might want to check the advisory circular and contact your FSDO to see about getting one set up.
 
In regards to that email, there are a lot of minutes missing if they only spent 12 minutes combined on their computers.

A 100 knot tailwind is not very much- only gives groundspeed up to around 540... which is barely 100 miles in that 12 minutes.

I still don't believe they are sleeping, but this email was very much trying to minimize.
 
I still don't think those guys tickets should have been pulled.

I'll trust a very experienced pilot whose screwup hurt NOBODY over my flying skills any day - and I regularly put my friends and family in a plane and fly.
 
stesta5074 said:
I still don't think those guys tickets should have been pulled.

I'll trust a very experienced pilot whose screwup hurt NOBODY over my flying skills any day - and I regularly put my friends and family in a plane and fly.
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Agreed... the FAA screwed the pooch on this one.
 
Seggy said:
The FAA should just shut up and say they defer the incident investigation to the NTSB and their processes.
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I think they're trying to cover their butts a little. See, we're being proactive and letting the public have all the information. See how we have nothing to hide?

Of course, the pilots in question did not help themselves. First they said they were involved in a heated discussion. When people didn't believe that, they changed their story and admitted to doing something they shouldn't have done.

The only thing they should have said is "no comment."
 
QuasarZ,

Can you point me to the thread you got the information from? To my knowledge what you posted was off a confidential board and not for public dissemination...
 
No Problem, I hadn't realized it had gone public. The board I read it on sometime back was a very privileged board and items on that board aren't supposed to leave that board.
 
I'll admit it... I get around....


PeanuckleCRJ here and FI...

80ktsClamp at APC (my personal fav screen name)

...and my oldest membership is XFSUgimpLB41X on airliners.net... wasn't even a soph in college when I joined there.
 
PeanuckleCRJ said:
I'll admit it... I get around....


PeanuckleCRJ here and FI...

80ktsClamp at APC (my personal fav screen name)

...and my oldest membership is XFSUgimpLB41X on airliners.net... wasn't even a soph in college when I joined there.
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I think the "W" word is censored here...but I'm think it about you man! :D
 
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