Delta to Swap Terminals in LAX

H46Bubba

H46Bubba

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Finally! Glad they let the cat out of the bag. It's a really good move for the company. More gates and wider alleyways will reduce most of the delays as well as allow for more flights.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/delta-inks-deal-for-major-terminal-move-at-lax-420660/
Delta inks deal for major terminal move at LAX

Delta Air Lines has signed a letter of intent to consolidate its operations to terminals two and three at Los Angeles International airport, a move that could leapfrog its facilities ahead of those of other carriers at the airport.

“We have a very big effort underway in Los Angeles,” says Richard Anderson, chairman and chief executive of the Atlanta-based carrier, in a recorded message to employees on 7 January. “We’ve signed a letter of intent with the city of Los Angeles to rehabilitate LAX [terminals] two and three and relocate our operation in what will be the biggest terminal facility there.”

Exactly what the rehabilitation of the terminals involves is not immediately clear. Delta confirms signing the LOI but declines to provide further details except to say that the agreement is still subject to approval by the board ofLos Angeles World Airports (LAWA), which operates the airport.

LAWA was not immediately available for comment.

“I’m not surprised that Delta would like to expand,” says Henry Harteveldt, founder and a travel industry analyst at the Atmosphere Research Group. “From the airline operational standpoint, the best thing to do is to knock the terminals down and build a new terminal that meet’s the airlines needs.”

“Neither terminal [two or three] is truly a 21st century facility on either the airside or the landside,” he adds.

Terminal two is LAX’s original international terminal that continues to support the newly renovated Tom Bradley International terminal, and terminal three is the former Trans World Airlines (TWA) terminal dating to 1961 that is now used by domestic carriers without their own dedicated space elsewhere at the airport.

Allegiant Air, Frontier Airlines, JetBlue Airways, Spirit Airlines and Virgin America operate from terminal three, the LAX website shows.

Roger Johnson, deputy executive director of airports development at LAWA, told Flightglobal in January 2014 that the operator planned to demolish and rebuild terminal three, which he described as being in the poorest condition of all of the terminals at the airport, once the new midfield concourse is complete.

"The midfield [concourse] is pretty integral in addressing our constraints," he says. "[It] gives us flexibility."

The construction contract on the midfield concourse was awarded in December 2014, however, a visit to acquired Western Airlines in 1987 – and secondary access to some gates in terminal six.

“Delta would like to have much more of a presence in the [Los Angeles] market than they are able to have now in order to better compete with American, United and, to a lesser degree, Southwest," says Harteveldt.

American Airlines has 17 gates in terminals four and six and shares some of the gates in the Tom Bradley terminal, Southwest Airlines has 12 gates in terminal one and United Airlines 22 gates in terminals seven and eight.

‘AIRLINE OF CHOICE’

"We're fast on our way to becoming the airline of choice in Los Angeles," said Ed Bastian, president of Delta, at the completion of $229 million in upgrades to its facilities in terminal five in June 2015.

He was referring to both the facility improvements as well as the air service and product improvements that the airline has made at LAX in recent years.

Delta has grown faster than any of its main competitors at the airport since 2014. Its seat capacity is up by more than a third to 620,000 this January from the same month two years ago, Innovata FlightMaps Analytics data shows.

American grew by 12.8% to 731,000 seats, Southwest by 17.1% to 492,000 seats and United shrank by 16% to 491,000 seats during the same period, according to Innovata.

Delta will continue to expand at LAX with five daily flights to Denver from 1 June and plans to shift all of its San Francisco shuttle flights to Boeing 717-200 aircraft this year.

While the renovations to terminal five and expanded service is good, Harteveldt says Delta has only set itself apart from American and United at LAX for the time being.

“As good as this is, they need something that’s better,” he says.
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Atleast with the move, LAX will be balanced operationally speaking...there's way too much traffic on the south side of the field...Alaska shouldn't have ever let DL talk them into moving to T6 a few years ago.
 
Seggy said:
Just copying United...
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Well, we're definitely not copying United in actually trying to compete in LAX.

Delta has grown faster than any of its main competitors at the airport since 2014. Its seat capacity is up by more than a third to 620,000 this January from the same month two years ago, Innovata FlightMaps Analytics data shows.

American grew by 12.8% to 731,000 seats, Southwest by 17.1% to 492,000 seats and United shrank by 16% to 491,000 seats during the same period, according to Innovata.
 
H46Bubba said:
Other way around Seggy! Delta already did that at Terminal 5. So United is following Delta's lead.
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Plus DAL has had the plan to expand at LAX (beyond what they poured into #5) since 2013 and have just been waiting for the Bradley and other expansion/construction to be finished. All you have to do is read the CAPA reports back from 2014 and last year to see the comparison, growth (increased flights and destination) and profitability for DAL, UAL, SWA and American, at LAX.
 
Just buy Virgin America. Easy move to T3 at LAX, end the DAL fight once and for all and gain access permanently, 321NEOs sooner, slots at JFK/EWR, gates at LA/SFO, forget the 737 certification to Hawaii, and take the 320 ETOPs instead, :p:p:p
 
Cptnchia said:
Well, we're definitely not copying United in actually trying to compete in LAX.

Delta has grown faster than any of its main competitors at the airport since 2014. Its seat capacity is up by more than a third to 620,000 this January from the same month two years ago, Innovata FlightMaps Analytics data shows.

American grew by 12.8% to 731,000 seats, Southwest by 17.1% to 492,000 seats and United shrank by 16% to 491,000 seats during the same period, according to Innovata.
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We are focusing more on SFO.

I thought SEA was going to be the Pacific Coast Mega Hub. Not working out? Plus, LAWA won't allow anyone to get to big at LAX.
 
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Seggy said:
We are focusing more on SFO.

I thought SEA was going to be the Pacific Coast Mega Hub. Not working out? Plus, LAWA won't allow anyone to get to big at LAX.
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Thanks for Seattle.

kthxbai! :)
 
Derg said:
I have no idea

But we all will writhe naked on the spent pelt of UAL's former Asian hub.

SFO is next.
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We had three international destinations from SEA.

If you know what we are doing from SFO you would know y'all won't be successful. You guys stopped international service from there the same day we stopped our SEA-NRT flight.
 
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SurferLucas said:
Atleast with the move, LAX will be balanced operationally speaking...there's way too much traffic on the south side of the field...Alaska shouldn't have ever let DL talk them into moving to T6 a few years ago.
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Yes! The north side seems to quiet compared to the clown show that is the south side terminals. In the middle of the mess on ground some pilot chimed in "You guys should really consider getting metering."
 
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