jynxyjoe
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Spend a year watching the Endeavor SSP and you might sympathize.I think that this has been said like a five million times in this thread, but people are still gnashing unnecessarily.

Spend a year watching the Endeavor SSP and you might sympathize.I think that this has been said like a five million times in this thread, but people are still gnashing unnecessarily.
I think it is silly that airlines will discriminate against qualified pilots; military or otherwise. A diverse workforce can only be a positive. I have heard of bad blood between military and civilian pilots even on jumpseats.I wasn't being sarcastic -- I'm fully aware that Delta, right now, has intentionally decided that here at the beginning of the hiring wave they want to front-load with as many qualified military guys as possible. This is also coinciding with a pretty massive flood of pilots leaving the military, too (compared to any time that I'm aware of since the 1990s). All around the unit I'm in, and amongst former squadronmates located elsewhere, nearly everyone is getting hired by Big D and nearly none of them by by United or American. In fact, some of those being hired by Delta weren't even able to make it past the Hogan assessment for United.
Delta has, for as long as I've been aware (which is only back into the mid/late 1980s), traditionally favored military folks. People can debate why and if that's fair until they're blue in the face, but that simply "is" and "has been". Somebody there decided that's what they wanted to do, had the authority to determine that course of action, and it has stayed that way (so maybe ask Capt Kraby why the next time you see him). They've decided what works for them.
You have to realize, too, that there are also airlines out there who distinctly don't desire military pilots, so this isn't some unfair magic ticket that mil dudes have been awarded.
I wasn't being sarcastic -- I'm fully aware that Delta, right now, has intentionally decided that here at the beginning of the hiring wave they want to front-load with as many qualified military guys as possible. This is also coinciding with a pretty massive flood of pilots leaving the military, too (compared to any time that I'm aware of since the 1990s). All around the unit I'm in, and amongst former squadronmates located elsewhere, nearly everyone is getting hired by Big D and nearly none of them by by United or American. In fact, some of those being hired by Delta weren't even able to make it past the Hogan assessment for United.
Delta has, for as long as I've been aware (which is only back into the mid/late 1980s), traditionally favored military folks. People can debate why and if that's fair until they're blue in the face, but that simply "is" and "has been". Somebody there decided that's what they wanted to do, had the authority to determine that course of action, and it has stayed that way (so maybe ask Capt Kraby why the next time you see him). They've decided what works for them.
You have to realize, too, that there are also airlines out there who distinctly don't desire military pilots, so this isn't some unfair magic ticket that mil dudes have been awarded.
What are your thoughts on the hiring picture next sumer? WAG... 3, 2, 1.. go!There hasn't been much hiring for a while, so you are correct. And that is exactly why they can be so picky at this point. Just watch- in a year and a half, the hiring picture will be VERY different.
Tortilla soup and the Santa Fe Salad. GLORIOUSNESS.
What are your thoughts on the hiring picture next sumer? WAG... 3, 2, 1.. go!
Running 135 noobs
Spend a year watching the Endeavor SSP and you might sympathize.Holy hell was that eye opening on what classified as "Delta Material" and "non-Delta Material".
It was such a shocker that so many of the crazy senior lifers didn't make it through, wasn't it?![]()
135 GUYS, PUT IN YOUR APPS, WE ARE NO LONGER DISQUALIFIED!
No, seriously, I heard it on JC from a well placed source.
Just to be clear, by 135 noobs.. I mean 135 bodies in newhire class a month through July!
Here's your toilet brush...135 GUYS, PUT IN YOUR APPS, WE ARE NO LONGER DISQUALIFIED!
No, seriously, I heard it on JC from a well placed source.
I said something about your precious HR didn't I? Don't cry. I didn't mean for you to get all angry and make fun of senior Endeavor pilots who didn't get the SSP (who aren't all lifers because some moved on).It was such a shocker that so many of the crazy senior lifers didn't make it through, wasn't it?![]()
No I didn't miss the point. And this could just be cause of the internets, but the impression whether real or misunderstood that I'm getting from what you're saying is that you want job, but don't want/or like to play the game or have to jump through the hoops to go about getting that coveted job. Because you want maximum time off for yourself, and to spend with your kids.
I commend you on being a father, but life is about politics, and learning and knowing how to play the game and win. Those that play well succeed, those that don't, flounder, become bitter and whine about it and their many short comings.
Reading the last page or so, I see no problem with rewarding veterans with preferential hiring after their service. Better pilots or not, single-seat fighters or multi-crew bombers, they spent the better part of young adulthood and beyond potentially putting their life on the line for us. Just sayin', makes me a little sick when I hear friends trying to move up bitch about it.
I also use my days off as time with family. Volunteering? I volunteer all my full time to my 1.5 year old son and pregnant wife. Zero free time or money to go to job fairs on days off away from them.
I have resigned myself to the fact that I am not Tier 1 material, I am content where I am now (as long as they don't go out of business) and at some point they will have to hire an average joe-shmoe Tier 3 pilot like me. I still have 25+ years to go in this career.
Maybe you missed the no money part.