Delta cuts SkyWest flying

[OldTownPilot]

uh thats your job right now. EAS

BGR, soon to be the next EAS city!

 

[MQAAord]

Wow - well, that's one way to approach it.

For the record, I want no part of an industry that treats it's customers that way.

The airline industry has been dropping flights to unprofitable cities since 1978. Eagle used to serve Danville, Bloomington IN, Flint, Marquette, etc. No more.

 

[Seggy]

OTP, true but you know we make money on that flying.

 

[mtsu_av8er]

So my airline and livelihood should be threatened so we can provide service to unprofitable places???

I can't tell you about your career or livelihood.

 

[Seggy]

I can't tell you about your career or livelihood.

Ahh you never answered my question.

Should airlines continue service to unprofitable places just to treat their customers a certain way?

 

[OldTownPilot]

Ahh you never answered my question.

Should airlines continue service to unprofitable places just to treat their customers a certain way?

Yes, so their crews that live there can get to work!

 

[Seggy]

Wow - well, that's one way to approach it.

For the record, I want no part of an industry that treats it's customers that way.

Oh by the way Lloyd, your airline dropped a lot of their customers in central PA when they decided to stop running the EAS years ago.

They dropped it to grow to what they are today.

 

[mtsu_av8er]

Ahh you never answered my question.

Should airlines continue service to unprofitable places just to treat their customers a certain way?

I think that if the city isn't profitable, then they'll stop serving the city (as they should).

However, if the cost of oil is rising and it's only profitable to service a city with a smaller aircraft, it makes business sense.

 

[Seggy]

However, if the cost of oil is rising and it's only profitable to service a city with a smaller aircraft, it makes business sense.

What happens if oil is cheap and they decide to drop the service to those cities so they can grow to bigger airplanes, like your airline did?

 

[mtsu_av8er]

What happens if oil is cheap and they decide to drop the service to those cities so they can grow to bigger airplanes, like your airline did?

I have no idea why my company did what they did to do anything . . . I just work there.

 

[Seggy]

Wow - well, that's one way to approach it.

For the record, I want no part of an industry that treats it's customers that way.

I have no idea why my company did what they did to do anything . . . I just work there.

Your company dropped service to unprofitable EAS cities in the late 90's to grow to where they are today. They got their start with Jballs and Slaabs providing service to small towns.

I am saying we are part of an industry that treats its customers a certain way (not saying I agree with that. CS is very important to me).

But there is no way to deny what your company did. Dropped service to unprofitable cities.

 

[mtsu_av8er]

I wasn't there then. Really, could care less.

Mark, you're not going to "educate" me on the industry. You know we'll never agree there.

 

[MQAAord]

I think he's confused (as am I) about your statement of not wanting to work in an industry that treats its customers that way, when cities have been dropped for non-profitability for some time now.

What sort of "treatment" were you referring to? Perhaps that's what we're missing?

 

[Seggy]

Thank you Amber.

 

[mtsu_av8er]

I think he's confused (as am I) about your statement of not wanting to work in an industry that treats its customers that way, when cities have been dropped for non-profitability for some time now.

What sort of "treatment" were you referring to? Perhaps that's what we're missing?

Missing a whole lot more than that . . .

 

[Seggy]

can you explain for us then?

 

[derg]

I can't offer any hints either. Me no getty!

 

[MQAAord]

I can't offer any hints either. Me no getty!

I know I went to public school and all.... but....... whatever I'm missing I'm just not getting!

 

[Maximilian_Jenius]

Airdale,

I don't think seg is necassarily coming down on the regionals, rather than just trying to say the jet flying belongs to the majors.

I remember reading an article about the guy who was responsible for deregulation and how he gloats everyday when he sits at home. Oh how I wish i could spend a few hours in a locked room with him.

Why pray tell would you want to do that?

Yes, deregulation is a double edge sword.

But now as a result of deregulation you have more pilot jobs, higher salaries, more routes, and you're far more likely today to actually get hired with a major then during regulation.

And in today's industry not everyone will make it to a "legacy."

So imagine the odds under regulation!

 

[skydog]

Seg- You are correct, the company did hire him into a 121 seat. They gave him the opportunity to be here. Which, as he says, he is grateful for. However, you and I both know the company doesn't care about him in the slightest. And, since we both (hopefully) agree to this point, they why should he care anymore than for that single reason?

Therein lies the basic problem with pilots. Someone offers them a job, and they feel that they should be grateful for it, as though they didn't really deserve it, but thanks for giving me the shot. That's bull#####. As a pilot, you have a skill, and that skill has value. Companies like Colgan need people with those skills, or they are out of business. They weren't doing anyone a favor. They hired him because they needed a pilot, and the wages they paid did not allow them to hire the cream-of-the-crop. No offense to anyone, and nor am I saying that 450 hour pilot can't do the job, but that 450 hour pilot is hardly the best person for the job. He is the best person available for the job