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I was curious how you ended up in a Citation formation flight with a Premier. Business jet formation flying is pretty darn rare, and I would assume there is some interesting back story to it.

(A secondary reason for the question was to hopefully get you to give some background information on the training and briefing required to safely do formation flight. I get nervous when I see those kind of pictures of general aviation aircraft, thinking that less experienced pilots will try to emulate them without the proper background and turn themselves into smoking holes.)

There is definitely a lot of ground and flight training for the formation flights, our instructors were/are career military with very distinguished careers both within the military and on the airshow circuit. I was coming from a piston formation background (with Yak-52s and CJs), and the jet formation is significantly different... within the past 6 months has been my first exposure to jet formation stuff. Things are obviously happening faster, but there are quite a bit more variables (spool time, boards, controls at Flight Levels, etc). Each flight is briefed extensively, rejoins (or as the Navy pilots would say "Rendezvous"), nordo, etc. Safety and trust were the key points emphasized. Getting good ground and flight instruction is awesome, but tighter formation is very physically and mentally challenging and I couldn't imagine someone attempt it without being taught the framework (both mental and technical) around it. Each 'ferry' flight with the L-39s allows us to get a few hours straight of spread and close formation time - it can be really tiring! I've had the recently opportunity to get a few hours of formation IMC time - which is, so far, one the most challenging things in aviation that I've done. It can really mess with you. Hacker and MikeD are really the authorities on formation stuff, and I'm just in the kindergarten stages of everything, but I'm thankful to have been getting great instruction! It's amazing that you don't know what you don't know... in respect to formation stuff.

The Biz jet form flight doesn't really have too much an interesting story behind it other than both aircraft needed to be moved to another airport and it was a good chance for a photo-flight. Once again, it was extensively briefed and each person at the controls had a lot of formation time with other jets.
 
West Jet at SNA now??
 

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There is definitely a lot of ground and flight training for the formation flights, our instructors were/are career military with very distinguished careers both within the military and on the airshow circuit. I was coming from a piston formation background (with Yak-52s and CJs), and the jet formation is significantly different... within the past 6 months has been my first exposure to jet formation stuff. Things are obviously happening faster, but there are quite a bit more variables (spool time, boards, controls at Flight Levels, etc). Each flight is briefed extensively, rejoins (or as the Navy pilots would say "Rendezvous"), nordo, etc. Safety and trust were the key points emphasized. Getting good ground and flight instruction is awesome, but tighter formation is very physically and mentally challenging and I couldn't imagine someone attempt it without being taught the framework (both mental and technical) around it. Each 'ferry' flight with the L-39s allows us to get a few hours straight of spread and close formation time - it can be really tiring! I've had the recently opportunity to get a few hours of formation IMC time - which is, so far, one the most challenging things in aviation that I've done. It can really mess with you. Hacker and MikeD are really the authorities on formation stuff, and I'm just in the kindergarten stages of everything, but I'm thankful to have been getting great instruction! It's amazing that you don't know what you don't know... in respect to formation stuff.

The Biz jet form flight doesn't really have too much an interesting story behind it other than both aircraft needed to be moved to another airport and it was a good chance for a photo-flight. Once again, it was extensively briefed and each person at the controls had a lot of formation time with other jets.

Perfect. Exactly what I was hoping to read.

Our company has a contract for doing formation flights with Citations that have some special *hardware* on board for a research project by a major university. I'll reinforce the need for proper training and briefing for formation flights. What I saw of the former military guys handling our training was pretty impressive in the amount of detail and planning involved.

I just get the heebie-jeebies when I see photos of formation flights posted without some kind of "don't try this at home" disclaimer.
 
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I got bored while on the longest glider tow I have ever done. I had to take this big heavy slug of a glider (IS28B) up to 7000' and it took about 45 minutes from the time I was airborne until I got back to take up another one.

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cool, is that you? I love that we have such a variety of people here.... I wish we could take folks for rides, but the liability is too great.

I'll sign a waiver for the jumpseat...

A T1i should be on my porch tomorrow

Nice Camera. I have have owned rebels since the 35mm days. I have a T2i which rocks, you will love the T1i. I leave min in auto most of the time as I feel like I need a course on it get back into use all the settings again.
 
Perfect. Exactly what I was hoping to read.

Our company has a contract for doing formation flights with Citations that have some special *hardware* on board for a research project by a major university. I'll reinforce the need for proper training and briefing for formation flights. What I saw of the former military guys handling our training was pretty impressive in the amount of detail and planning involved.

I just get the heebie-jeebies when I see photos of formation flights posted without some kind of "don't try this at home" disclaimer.

Two pilots.. One formation trained.. The other not..

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I took this over HFD this afternoon. Does this look a little like a rabbit to anyone? (or is it time to take a couple days off?)
 

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Inbound to MDW, vectors to 4R on a busy Friday morning.



On the ramp at MDW. Pretty busy. Getting ready to leave.

 
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