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No. If you want to fly an instrument approach (and technically you can, the ones I fly are IFR certified and all required inspections are current), you fly it just like an airplane. You can probably understand how impractical IFR flight in an airship is due to the lack of speed.

I've never flown an approach in IMC, however I've done a few practice approaches in VMC under the hood. Staying on the localizer/glideslope centerline can be a challenge, especially if there's a strong crosswind and it's really thermally (like say, in the middle of the afternoon). The crab angles can get kind of crazy, which can make things more.... interesting.

On the plus side, you have more time to brief and familiarize yourself with the approach. Oh yeah, it's pretty much impossible to ever find yourself in an unusual attitude in an airship as well, so that's nice. :)

I, on the other hand, have been IMC with an airship. It's totally different, and even compared to being under the hood, its not the same. The whole, unusual attitude and losing control of an airplane thing, yeah, can't happen really in a blimp. Basically, you bob and weave and roll a bit, but it never goes turtle up. IMC for an airship usually would be fog and ceilings, not convective activity. In that environment, its not too bad. Yes, its not uncommon to have 60 degrees or more of crab angle.

My IMC experience was in Orlando, and it took 2 approaches to get into ORL. Those 2 approaches, from first vector to breaking out, took in the region of 1.5 hours. Its extremely slow, especially if you have to go upwind.


As for landing, this might show it a bit better, from the video perspective. The first is a video from inside, landing on an A60, which is the small blimp. The latter, is exterior of an A170, which is the larger. Same concepts, just different sizes.





And for reference, the A60, is roughly the size of a 737-800, and the A170 is the size of a 767-300


Either of you guys in/around TOL earlier this week?
Yup, DirecTV is stuck for weather. We are headed to Buffalo, should get out tomorrow.
 
Yup, DirecTV is stuck for weather. We are headed to Buffalo, should get out tomorrow.

Oh nice. Silly question, but was there an event that you guys had to do in the TOL area? It seemed like you guys were loitering for a while around the area before you went to land (I assume).

Maybe it just seemed like you were loitering because of how slow it is.
 
Oh nice. Silly question, but was there an event that you guys had to do in the TOL area? It seemed like you guys were loitering for a while around the area before you went to land (I assume).

Maybe it just seemed like you were loitering because of how slow it is.

Waiting for the wind to die down to make a somewhat sensible landing.
 
Heehee, all the dudes look like little worker ants running around...

As for the first one, did he put it right on the belly? Is there any sort of gear or skids?
 
Heehee, all the dudes look like little worker ants running around...

As for the first one, did he put it right on the belly? Is there any sort of gear or skids?

That particular model, in the first video, has a single landing gear underneath the gondola, so yes, its on a landing gear.
 
You can probably understand how impractical IFR flight in an airship is due to the lack of speed.

ATC: Airship1, you are number one, cleared ILS runway niner right.
Airship1: Cleared to land, niner right, Airship1.
ATC: KingAir45, you are number two, cleared ILS runway niner right.
KingAir45: Cleared to lan... wait... WHAT?
 
ATC: Airship1, you are number one, cleared ILS runway niner right.
Airship1: Cleared to land, niner right, Airship1.
ATC: KingAir45, you are number two, cleared ILS runway niner right.
KingAir45: Cleared to lan... wait... WHAT?

Heh, I actually would feel quite bad for any kerosene burner landing at say, a class D airport in IMC with an airship conducting an instrument approach. Poor guys would be holding for quite some time. :)
 
Apophis KSCessnaDriver Thanks for all the info guys, never knew half that stuff about airships. Just wondering, where do you even do training for these things? Seems like the only airships I have ever seen are commercial ones.
 
Apophis KSCessnaDriver Thanks for all the info guys, never knew half that stuff about airships. Just wondering, where do you even do training for these things? Seems like the only airships I have ever seen are commercial ones.

The commercial ones. They train to meet their demand, and as such, just get you in the seat when they have the time to do it. It can be a long drawn out process, depending on a myriad of variables. It took me 3.5 months to go from zero time to rated.
 
The commercial ones. They train to meet their demand, and as such, just get you in the seat when they have the time to do it. It can be a long drawn out process, depending on a myriad of variables. It took me 3.5 months to go from zero time to rated.
Interesting. And I don't think 3.5 months is that long at all. Pretty cool, thanks.
 
I lived in Livingstone, this small town/village on the Caribe side of Guatemala, no road access to the rest of the country, we would fly in by Pilatus Porter from the Capital, and stay at the airplane`s owner hotel Vila Caribe...they also own a beach 45 minutes boat ride from Livingstone with amazing bonefishing, if you take the Rio Dulce up stream there is also good fishing and water sports, we would catch endless Mojarras just by floating some berries on a hook and line off the boat...[/img]


Sounds even more awesome now!

Guatemala has probably some of the most beautiful colors I have ever seen for Photography

Agreed! One of my favorites from Antigua...

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