Crazy/good flying skills

USMCmech said:
That said, flying down the runway on one wheel is actually something that every student pilot can do (normal crosswind landing). Even if he does screw it up, he is only moving at 30-40 MPH and any accident will be very mild.
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Wow. Just. Wow.
 
butt said:
I really think the FAA need to step up and regulate the airshow industry.
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I have been on the pilot side of airshow flying before and can assure you the FAA takes it very, very seriously. The only thing I saw in that video that I thought was stupid/risky was the egress at the end.

Alex.
 
I'm too frightened to even download the clip. My eyes can't handle seeing such dangerous feats!
 
butt said:
What is some newbie clicks on this thread and sees that video and everybody praising it? That person may get the wrong idea that doing that sort of thing is OK. If that newbie were to crash or something, then we would be partially responsible.

And to answer your question, no the barnstormers should have not done that. Maybe i'm in the minority here, but I dont think people should do unsafe things in planes. Might just be me though...
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You know what...somebody sees that video, reads these quotes, and then thinks they can do that and end up crashing...I'll be ok with that. It won't disturb my sleep and I won't feel responsible at all. I figure it is a Darwin Award type of deal.
 
butt said:
What is some newbie clicks on this thread and sees that video and everybody praising it? That person may get the wrong idea that doing that sort of thing is OK. If that newbie were to crash or something, then we would be partially responsible.

And to answer your question, no the barnstormers should have not done that. Maybe i'm in the minority here, but I dont think people should do unsafe things in planes. Might just be me though...
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Then its there own fault. If they can go get in a plane as a newbie by themselves, then there is a bigger problem. If he has any legal way to get in a airplane by himself he will know that he shouldn't do that.

The barnstormers made aviation... I don't understand.

As USMCmech said flying isn't safe. These guys push the limits, if people hadn't pushed the limits then aviation wouldn't be where it is.
 
WacoFan said:
You know what...somebody sees that video, reads these quotes, and then thinks they can do that and end up crashing...I'll be ok with that. It won't disturb my sleep and I won't feel responsible at all. I figure it is a Darwin Award type of deal.
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Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. :clap:
 
The skill displayed in the OP video is amazing.


Are the Blue Angels or Thunderbirds unsafe? Flying jets only inches from one another at over 500mph just hundreds of feet of the deck? How about Sean Tucker? Patty Wagstaff? Any one of the pilots who fly in the Red Bull Air Races, or Reno Air Races? I agree with everybody else, lets ban airshows completely! They're too dangerous!
 
etflies said:
The skill displayed in the OP video is amazing.


Are the Blue Angels or Thunderbirds unsafe? Flying jets only inches from one another at over 500mph just hundreds of feet of the deck? How about Sean Tucker? Patty Wagstaff? Any one of the pilots who fly in the Red Bull Air Races, or Reno Air Races? I agree with everybody else, lets ban airshows completely! They're too dangerous!
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The only thing about the Air Races I don't like is the fact they take these beautiful warbirds (Bearcat, Mustang, etc) and chop/clip them up as ugly race planes. Blasphemy!
 
MikeD said:
The only thing about the Air Races I don't like is the fact they take these beautiful warbirds (Bearcat, Mustang, etc) and chop/clip them up as ugly race planes. Blasphemy!
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wellllll.....

for the most part the chopping and modding was done before they were hot items, you know?

I don't think I know of anyone who would permanently chop a warbird these days... and a few of the racers are being restored back to stock now, which I think is kinda sad actually, but hey, it's the golden rule!
 
trafficinsight said:
wellllll.....

for the most part the chopping and modding was done before they were hot items, you know?

I don't think I know of anyone who would permanently chop a warbird these days... and a few of the racers are being restored back to stock now, which I think is kinda sad actually, but hey, it's the golden rule!
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It's just too bad their value wasn't recognized before the 60s/70s when that was occurring.
 
MikeD said:
The only thing about the Air Races I don't like is the fact they take these beautiful warbirds (Bearcat, Mustang, etc) and chop/clip them up as ugly race planes. Blasphemy!
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My aviation dream, as I have stated before, is to field a completely home-built and designed unlimited racer that is NOT a chopped up warbird. I believe that RARA has implemented rules that require a certain weight restriction now for the unlimiteds (ruling out something like a Thunder Mustang with a 1,200+ HP supercharged motor). I would love to scratch build and design something that would compete. Even if you made a copy of Rare Bear, but did NOT use a Bearcat it would work. I can't think of anything other than the engines for power so you would still be burning up a RR or Pratt or big Wright...but at least you would be using a "new" airframe and design. I think the golden age of air racing - 20's and 30's Thompson Trophy and Bendix races were the greatest time in racing ever.
 
WacoFan said:
My aviation dream, as I have stated before, is to field a completely home-built and designed unlimited racer that is NOT a chopped up warbird. I believe that RARA has implemented rules that require a certain weight restriction now for the unlimiteds (ruling out something like a Thunder Mustang with a 1,200+ HP supercharged motor). I would love to scratch build and design something that would compete. Even if you made a copy of Rare Bear, but did NOT use a Bearcat it would work. I can't think of anything other than the engines for power so you would still be burning up a RR or Pratt or big Wright...but at least you would be using a "new" airframe and design. I think the golden age of air racing - 20's and 30's Thompson Trophy and Bendix races were the greatest time in racing ever.
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It just sucks to have seen the various Mustangs, Bearcats, Corsairs, and Sea Fury's being chopped and cropped into something that doesn't even resemble their former selves, back in the day.
 
MikeD said:
It just sucks to have seen the various Mustangs, Bearcats, Corsairs, and Sea Fury's being chopped and cropped into something that doesn't even resemble their former selves, back in the day.
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It isn't just the chopping up of warbirds for me. It is a little more than that.

Back in the 20's and 30's, you had designers such as the Granville brothers, Jimmy Wedell, Benny Howard, Matty Laird and Travel Air that were designing and beating the fastest military airplanes of the day - with regularity. These guys, on shoe-string budgets, were using their ingenuity to make up for the lack of unlimited funds and they were winning! Not only that, they were developing most of the speed designs that were later used to great effect in the military equipment. There is something uniquely American about this - the innovation and ingenuity as a result of knowing how to do things rather than throwing an unlimited amount of money at something. The US simply lacks this now I think (with exceptions to Burt Rutan and team and some others). To me, the ability to create a clean sheet of paper design that kicked the asses of the Mustangs, Bearcats and Sea Fury's would reenergize the sport. I think the Sport class could eventually overtake the unlimiteds, at least the "bronze unlimiteds" in terms of speed.
 
WacoFan said:
It isn't just the chopping up of warbirds for me. It is a little more than that.

Back in the 20's and 30's, you had designers such as the Granville brothers, Jimmy Wedell, Benny Howard, Matty Laird and Travel Air that were designing and beating the fastest military airplanes of the day - with regularity. These guys, on shoe-string budgets, were using their ingenuity to make up for the lack of unlimited funds and they were winning! Not only that, they were developing most of the speed designs that were later used to great effect in the military equipment. There is something uniquely American about this - the innovation and ingenuity as a result of knowing how to do things rather than throwing an unlimited amount of money at something. The US simply lacks this now I think (with exceptions to Burt Rutan and team and some others). To me, the ability to create a clean sheet of paper design that kicked the asses of the Mustangs, Bearcats and Sea Fury's would reenergize the sport. I think the Sport class could eventually overtake the unlimiteds, at least the "bronze unlimiteds" in terms of speed.
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I definitely agree. There used to be a number of cool designs for racing back in the 30s, etc (Gee Bee comes to mind), something we don't see much of anymore.
 
John Sharp - Nemesis (Race 3X) - 412.554mph


It's coming ;)

I wish they would drop the kit rule though.... or make a sport unlimited class or something. I doubt the unlimiteds will ever go away, at least I HOPE they wont, but sport class is slowly gaining on them.
 
MikeD said:
I definitely agree. There used to be a number of cool designs for racing back in the 30s, etc (Gee Bee comes to mind), something we don't see much of anymore.
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The air races were also a much bigger deal back then. I'd love to see pylon racing make a comeback and hold more events than just Reno. Hell, we have Redbull Air Racing! I admire those pilots for their skills and abilities, but I'm not so convinced about the series in general.

I mean people watch NASCAR, why can't we get them to pay stupid amounts of money to see that in the air?
 
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